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Old 03-08-2005 | 04:27 PM
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Sailing off the cliff of political conformity

haha... i havent been in this forum 4ever. too busy searching for new updates on 07 wrx revamps

Instead of tacking this onto an earlier post I thought I would start a new thread...

Salty, you chalk the lack of liberal participation up to Bush's apparant success in the Middle East? I wont deny that Bush might deserve more credit for any success in the Middle East, but dont you think it is absurd to suggest that his success participated in the lack of participation from Dems / Libs??

How about this... as we continue to sail into the horizon of the Republican controlled Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branched govt, there are some of us who have become so nauseous of the current political climate that we dont want to spend our day snipping with guys that dry-hump posters of Hannity and O'Reilly.

There was once a day when this forum had true, lively debate. Where ish was talked but also backed up with the force of logic. Scrolling through the different threads, this forum looks like it needs to be renamed "Lick my Salty ***** starring boy-buddy HellaDumb"

If anything, the current state of this forum (specifically referring to lack of participation from certain ideological perspectives) reflects the current nature of American political discourse, a nature replete with political confirmity and obtuseness.

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Old 03-08-2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
There was once a day when this forum had true, lively debate. Where ish was talked but also backed up with the force of logic. Scrolling through the different threads, this forum looks like it needs to be renamed "Lick my Salty ***** starring boy-buddy HellaDumb"
Eh? Don't give me any credit for repelling the scum sucking abortion loving liberals. They went and hid in a whole after the election.

Let me go ahead and state the obvious. Salty puts a little thought behind his posts, and I keep it on the helladumb level.

When I came it here, there was a liberal love fest going on. The intollerant libs that frequented this forum couldn't handle a little dissent when I entered the fray.

It is a little sad in here now... kinda wish the liberals weren't so sensitive.
Old 03-08-2005 | 07:37 PM
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Salty, you chalk the lack of liberal participation up to Bush's apparant success in the Middle East? I wont deny that Bush might deserve more credit for any success in the Middle East, but don’t you think it is absurd to suggest that his success participated in the lack of participation from Dems / Libs??
In the this forum or regarding Bush's efforts? It's passed my mind regarding the forum from time to time but it's never been strong enough for me to dwell on. Otherwise, I credit Bush's success in the Middle East because of Bush himself. Can you please clarify what scale you're referring to? Global or forumites here?

Originally Posted by dub2w
How about this... as we continue to sail into the horizon of the Republican controlled Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branched govt, there are some of us who have become so nauseous of the current political climate that we don’t want to spend our day snipping with guys that dry-hump posters of Hannity and O'Reilly.

There was once a day when this forum had true, lively debate. Where ish was talked but also backed up with the force of logic. Scrolling through the different threads, this forum looks like it needs to be renamed "Lick my Salty ***** starring boy-buddy HellaDumb"
I don't understand this. I'm not a fan of Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh or whomever. They sit on the far right and I don't. If I see something wrong with an argument someone has posted I'll speak my mind. There's been a few occasions Helladumb. Gpatmac, Oaf and myself have had different views. I'm not going to apologize for my stances in this forum when they don't tickle your fancy. The force of logic? LOL. Don't you mean www.axisoflogic.com ?

Originally Posted by dub2w
If anything, the current state of this forum (specifically referring to lack of participation from certain ideological perspectives) reflects the current nature of American political discourse, a nature replete with political confirmity and obtuseness.

Laters,

dub2w
Replete with political conformity and obtuseness, huh? It's this type of thinking that's damning your party. Seriously. You assume that things resonating with your base also resonate with America. Let me tell you something... the sun does not rise and set in "the force of logic" world you call San Francisco, Berkeley, Seattle, Boston and Washington D.C..

You seem to posses an arrogance that if only people knew better they'd be liberal, as if that's some state of enlightenment that can reach if only they paid attention.

But I see your point. People that side with Bush's ideals are political conformists and those that cling to the latter are independent. brilliant!
Old 03-08-2005 | 07:46 PM
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It isn't just this forum, large parts of this website have become like high school where if you aren't part of the club you get left out. It's understandable though because most of it comes from the fact that certain areas have higher activity and people meet at meets and actually know each other. If you're like me and you live in the midwest you pretty much get left out in the cold. Case in point: This thread will continue on as if I'd never written this.
Old 03-08-2005 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ftnssn
It isn't just this forum, large parts of this website have become like high school where if you aren't part of the club you get left out. It's understandable though because most of it comes from the fact that certain areas have higher activity and people meet at meets and actually know each other. If you're like me and you live in the midwest you pretty much get left out in the cold. Case in point: This thread will continue on as if I'd never written this.
I've never been to a local meet and I live IN the Bay Area. The only time I meet folks on this board is if I'm buying or selling something, which does happen on rare occasion.

One thing I did notice, however, is that I get a much better response to threads I post when I write using more colorful terms, such as "SCUM SUCKING LIBERAL," "Abortion-Loving Baby-killer," "Flag-burning anti-american traitor," etc.
People know when I'm talking about them

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Old 03-08-2005 | 11:35 PM
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Nice response. Salty, I have a hard time following the logic that led to your conclusion but I will stammer out a meager defense... Sometimes big words convey big thoughts. They arent used to sound pompous. Instead, they evoke the appropriate sentiment. No, I dont think that the liberal ideology is the panacea to today's modern ills. Political confirmity is an ill that has befallen on our political machine as a whole: this is certainly not a Republican specific attack. You shouldnt be afraid of admitting your political bend. It's OK if you dry hump Hannity... he's better than Greta

And fttsn, it's good to know some people stuck in there. Im pretty disenfranchised with both parties. These days when you voice dissent against the two warring political factions you are either labeled a communist or a war-monger. And here I am, the communist.

Alas, the middle will rise again!!

p.s. Dumb. Ive got this funny feeling you are actually Howard Dean poisoning the Republican well with your Teh Retarded commentary.
Old 03-08-2005 | 11:56 PM
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Political confirmity is an ill that has befallen on our political machine as a whole: this is certainly not a Republican specific attack. You shouldnt be afraid of admitting your political bend.
I agree. I'm glad you think this way.

And for the record everything I said was the truth. I don't care for Hannity or any of anyone like him. This goes for Franken, Moore, Carlson, Garofalo, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Maher and the rest of them.
Old 03-09-2005 | 12:23 AM
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My father is sick and been busy with that. This is the last thing on my mind at the time.
Old 03-09-2005 | 12:30 AM
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My father is sick and been busy with that. This is the last thing on my mind at the time.
Best wishes to your father.
Old 03-09-2005 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ftnssn
It isn't just this forum, large parts of this website have become like high school where if you aren't part of the club you get left out. It's understandable though because most of it comes from the fact that certain areas have higher activity and people meet at meets and actually know each other. If you're like me and you live in the midwest you pretty much get left out in the cold. Case in point: This thread will continue on as if I'd never written this.
Dude I hear you about the whole forum thing. There is nothing that goes on in the midwest here. It's upsetting cause I really like this place better than nabisco...Oh well. Maybe we can have a left-out meet sometime this summer!

As far as the Political climate here. I do feel a little disenfranchised with the direction of my party. Even though I tend to line myself up with the dems I find that their actions more and more draw my ire, albeit not as much as the "other" party. I guess I just wish there was a middle ground choice that was the lesser of the two evils.

As far as the blowhards that sit on TV and Radio and spout their **** they all suck. Except Maher used to have his funny moments but now he just talks too much.

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My father is sick and been busy with that. This is the last thing on my mind at the time.
Yes, best wishes to your father.
Old 03-16-2005 | 12:13 AM
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prayers are with your dad.

yeah, maher used to be funny. i dont understand how going to cable can take the edge away? wasnt it supposed to give him an edge? he was way better when he was on ABC
Old 03-25-2005 | 03:57 PM
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yawn.... bummer. this forum used to be a great sparring ring. what happened?
Old 03-25-2005 | 05:53 PM
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There's really not too much else to own you on regarding this thread so start another.
Old 03-25-2005 | 06:10 PM
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nice.

i dunno, where did all my comrades go? i need to retreat back into the hills to stage a salty coup d'etat
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Originally Posted by ftnssn
It isn't just this forum, large parts of this website have become like high school where if you aren't part of the club you get left out. It's understandable though because most of it comes from the fact that certain areas have higher activity and people meet at meets and actually know each other. If you're like me and you live in the midwest you pretty much get left out in the cold. Case in point: This thread will continue on as if I'd never written this.
I never get that feeling.
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