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Old 02-23-2009, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
theres a lull in posting....

the hypochristians must be praying for guidance. heres an idea: use your brain for once instead of asking for the answer.
Easy man, lets try to keep this on a friendly level. People are explaining their beliefs and non-beliefs, lets try and keep the judgment to a minimum ok
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"what the **** is juice?" - dave chappelle


neither of our quotes is relevant to the discussion
well since the "oranges are better than apples" thing, then paul chiming in, i felt compelled to post something
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Originally Posted by Jin
evolution can be and is proven, religion is not and will never be proven.
Are we talkin' micro evolution or macro evolution?

Can you show me the footnotes on this statement?
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Originally Posted by irrational x
lets see:

i had an auto immune disease at 5
kidney failure at 7
survived 4 surgeries
survived 9 years or parochial school
paid my own way through private college
bought my first house before i could buy alcohol
managed my mothers estate when she died, before i could buy alcohol
survived a colossal car accident
took over my mother mortgage, paying it and my own
short selling a house

thats the short list. all without your lord an savior.

an on the topic of complete ignorance, how many conversations have you had with a snake? or a burning tree for that matter.
Impressive list for sure. I disagree with what was posted that you responded to as well. There are tons of extremely worldly successful people who don't believe in God or Jesus Christ.

And with all honesty, it is likely easier for them to be successful in their careers than a true Christian.

A truly devoted Christian will not tell lies... not for fear of their job, family, or life itself. And quite honestly, there is likely no one in a position of power or wealth that has not told many lies on their path to worldly success. That's just reality.
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Originally Posted by irrational x
while were on the topic of things to consider, maybe its time you admit your a presumptuous ****.
Ok I admit it I'm a presumptuous ****, now what?

Seriously, I'm stirring the pot. As if anyone in here is more correct than the other. Hell I haven't been to church since I was baptized.
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
Thats a simple question with a very complex answer. But bottom line is, I dont believe in something becuase a book tells me to. Ive been to religious school, Ive been Bar-Mitzvah'ed and Ive been to Israel and organized religion is not for me.
Well, I'm trying my best to explain what I believe. Can you do me the same? I really am interested.
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Easy man, lets try to keep this on a friendly level. People are explaining their beliefs and non-beliefs, lets try and keep the judgment to a minimum ok
you are asking religious people not to judge?

good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
Are you a Catholic? If not this statement does not apply to you. AFAIK only Catholics are baptised. Catholics follow what their leadership says, they donate money to the church, etc. etc.
No, I am a Christian. I follow Christ
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Originally Posted by matthepcat
Are we talkin' micro evolution or macro evolution?

Can you show me the footnotes on this statement?
I can show you absolute proof of both, the question is, will you be willing to accept it or will you be one to dismiss scientific evidence as "made up"?
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Hey while there are so many experts on this thread....I have a question.

Is Mormonism the same as Christianity?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
you are asking religious people not to judge?

good luck with that.
No, I am asking everyone to try, thats all.

I fully expect someone of the religious side to come in here and give the old "well your a ***, god hates you!" thing to me. However for now everyone has been rather civil, why be the first to set the bar lower?
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Originally Posted by Overbear
I can show you absolute proof of both, the question is, will you be willing to accept it or will you be one to dismiss scientific evidence as "made up"?
That would depend on your sources..among other things
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Easy man, lets try to keep this on a friendly level. People are explaining their beliefs and non-beliefs, lets try and keep the judgment to a minimum ok
He's doesn't give a crap about friendly.

But I appreciate your direction and enjoy such debates. To me if two people with opposing ideas come together to discuss and debate each with open minds a lot can be learned. If you come to a discussion with a closed mind then what is the point of joining the discussion in the first place.
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