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03-02-2009, 04:29 PM
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This is just evidence that you don't understand the theory of evolution or genetics; natural selection is what drives evolution--it is the very core of the theory: populations evolve over time due to the process of natural selection.
Read On the Origin of Species sometime instead of blindly accepting what someone tells you.
Read On the Origin of Species sometime instead of blindly accepting what someone tells you.
For example:
If a population of dogs have genes for both long and short hair, but the dogs live in a cold environment, the dogs with short hair will die out and the gene for short hair with them... tell me, is that a loss of genetic information or gaining of information?
Genetic information is lost with every generation and for evolution to be true, we would have to see the opposite. We would have to be exponentially gaining genetic information with each generation. Since the beginning of time, we have been losing more information with each generation.
If a population of dogs have genes for both long and short hair, but the dogs live in a cold environment, the dogs with short hair will die out and the gene for short hair with them... tell me, is that a loss of genetic information or gaining of information?
Genetic information is lost with every generation and for evolution to be true, we would have to see the opposite. We would have to be exponentially gaining genetic information with each generation. Since the beginning of time, we have been losing more information with each generation.
How does a dog become an elephant when the dog looses genetic information with each generation as opposed to gaining information?
03-02-2009, 04:42 PM
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No, you are perverting the word science; the theory of evolution is a scientific theory. Science includes fact, theory and hypothesis, all of which have been tossed around in this thread by people using the non-scientific definitions of them, yourself included.
03-02-2009, 04:43 PM
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though it may seem, science and atheism arent related.
those who learn things that science teaches in terms of time and space, universe, would lead to think that there is no 6 day creation, no adam and eve, no garden of eden, i'm not speaking for everyone but for me, thats how it was.
there are many evolutionists and theorists that are religious.
you say that secular humanists are bad mouthing the words of god, but thats done unintentionally, its jsut that what we learn from science does not go with the "facts" in bible, such as adam and eve. therefor one is forced to take a side which christians are threatend by it.
like i've said before, atheists/religionless are the minority and they're the one being shut down, not the other way around. you say the unchanged words of the bible is a good thing, how is that a good thing i ask again. just because its the word of god and its the ultimate answer to all?
6,000 years old earth? dinosaurs being 5000 years old? we're the result of inbreeding of adam and eve and their children? we're the inbreed of noah's family? really, this stuff doesnt make sense and i end up asking quesetions and there are answers out there that arent explained by the bible and it makes sense. some near perfect, some far from perfect but developing.
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03-02-2009, 04:48 PM
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A combination of logic and reason.
Not everything has to be an absolute. I'm not arrogant enough to say that I know for a fact. I can only assume an answer. I assume He does not which sits just fine with me.
Not everything has to be an absolute. I'm not arrogant enough to say that I know for a fact. I can only assume an answer. I assume He does not which sits just fine with me.
03-02-2009, 04:52 PM
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As an example:
The multiple images are a result of gravitational lensing by a foreground galaxy, an effect that was predicted by Albert Einstein as a consequence of his theory of general relativity. The light source in the Einstein Cross is a quasar approximately ten billion light-years away, whereas the foreground lensing galaxy is ten times closer. The light from the quasar is bent in its path and magnified by the gravitational field of the lensing galaxy.
You know what? Don't bother responding--it'll just be more gobbledygook and I'm chock full from your heaping helping of crazy.
03-02-2009, 04:53 PM
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03-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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Why don't you stop evading mine? You clearly have a very limited--if even that--understanding of evolution, yet you rail against it.
For once in your life stop simply accepting what someone has told you and read On the Origin of Species and formulate your own opinion.
These questions are borderline gibberish. It is not a loss or a gain of genetic information, it is simply a changing of dominant traits.
You are not a geneticist, and neither am I. Stop trying to use genetics in your argument.
For once in your life stop simply accepting what someone has told you and read On the Origin of Species and formulate your own opinion.
For example:
If a population of dogs have genes for both long and short hair, but the dogs live in a cold environment, the dogs with short hair will die out and the gene for short hair with them... tell me, is that a loss of genetic information or gaining of information?
Genetic information is lost with every generation and for evolution to be true, we would have to see the opposite. We would have to be exponentially gaining genetic information with each generation. Since the beginning of time, we have been losing more information with each generation.
If a population of dogs have genes for both long and short hair, but the dogs live in a cold environment, the dogs with short hair will die out and the gene for short hair with them... tell me, is that a loss of genetic information or gaining of information?
Genetic information is lost with every generation and for evolution to be true, we would have to see the opposite. We would have to be exponentially gaining genetic information with each generation. Since the beginning of time, we have been losing more information with each generation.
You are not a geneticist, and neither am I. Stop trying to use genetics in your argument.
03-02-2009, 05:02 PM
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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
I'm pulling myself out of this discussion... again.
03-02-2009, 05:16 PM
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i've had similar experience -,.-
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03-02-2009, 05:35 PM
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Can we get some more cartoons?
But seriously, your beliefs are your's, as mine are mine.
Do I have to be baptized in order to get to heaven?
What about followers of other religions? Are they damned?
But seriously, your beliefs are your's, as mine are mine.
Do I have to be baptized in order to get to heaven?
What about followers of other religions? Are they damned?
