religion argument
02-23-2009 | 03:02 PM
#138
Hurray, it's Ian!!
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lets see:
i had an auto immune disease at 5
kidney failure at 7
survived 4 surgeries
survived 9 years or parochial school
paid my own way through private college
bought my first house before i could buy alcohol
managed my mothers estate when she died, before i could buy alcohol
survived a colossal car accident
took over my mother mortgage, paying it and my own
short selling a house
thats the short list. all without your lord an savior.
an on the topic of complete ignorance, how many conversations have you had with a snake? or a burning tree for that matter.
i had an auto immune disease at 5
kidney failure at 7
survived 4 surgeries
survived 9 years or parochial school
paid my own way through private college
bought my first house before i could buy alcohol
managed my mothers estate when she died, before i could buy alcohol
survived a colossal car accident
took over my mother mortgage, paying it and my own
short selling a house
thats the short list. all without your lord an savior.
an on the topic of complete ignorance, how many conversations have you had with a snake? or a burning tree for that matter.
02-23-2009 | 03:02 PM
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Hey paul, while I find the pictures funny...its not really helping with the idea of keeping a conducive conversation going.
Don't make me tell Raptor Jesus on you.
Don't make me tell Raptor Jesus on you.
02-23-2009 | 03:07 PM
#141
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negative, im just a person who wont sit around and wait for someone else to help me when i can fix the problem myself or by seeking the intervention of a professional.
if you got a flat tire would you pray about it? no. youd call AAA. so why pray about cancer? thats time that could be spent seeking the assistance of someone who might actually be able to resolve the problem.
its called common sense, and it is what religion lacks. completely.
if you got a flat tire would you pray about it? no. youd call AAA. so why pray about cancer? thats time that could be spent seeking the assistance of someone who might actually be able to resolve the problem.
its called common sense, and it is what religion lacks. completely.
02-23-2009 | 03:09 PM
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James 2:19 (New International Version)
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
[B]Mark 5 (New International Version)
Mark 5
The Healing of a Demon-possessed Man
1They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.[a] 2When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him any more, not even with a chain. 4For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
6When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!" 8For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!"
9Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
"My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many." 10And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.
11A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12The demons begged Jesus, "Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them." 13He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.
Luke 4 (New International Version)
40When the sun was setting, the people brought to Jesus all who had various kinds of sickness, and laying his hands on each one, he healed them. 41Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.[h]
Even the demons acknowledge God and Jesus, and they shudder.
02-23-2009 | 03:10 PM
#143
Hurray, it's Ian!!
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negative, im just a person who wont sit around and wait for someone else to help me when i can fix the problem myself or by seeking the intervention of a professional.
if you got a flat tire would you pray about it? no. youd call AAA. so why pray about cancer? thats time that could be spent seeking the assistance of someone who might actually be able to resolve the problem.
its called common sense, and it is what religion lacks. completely.
if you got a flat tire would you pray about it? no. youd call AAA. so why pray about cancer? thats time that could be spent seeking the assistance of someone who might actually be able to resolve the problem.
its called common sense, and it is what religion lacks. completely.
02-23-2009 | 03:11 PM
#144
I don't need more cowbell dammit!
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old testiment: brutal old school "wrath of god" **** happening.
**** these people, they keep making false idols and will not pay attention to me. I'm done with this ****, anyone else want to take over?
sure, ill play god for a bit, send me down as your "son" or something
new testament: warm and fuzzy
**** these people, they keep making false idols and will not pay attention to me. I'm done with this ****, anyone else want to take over?
sure, ill play god for a bit, send me down as your "son" or something
new testament: warm and fuzzy
02-23-2009 | 03:13 PM
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02-23-2009 | 03:13 PM
#148
the only posters rational enough to continue debating in this thread:
- medicsti
- OneManArmy
- Overbear
- VRT MBasile
- jewpac
everyone else's posts are asinine and intentionally malicious. except the mood lightener Paul@dbtuned, keep up the picture posts. lol
- medicsti
- OneManArmy
- Overbear
- VRT MBasile
- jewpac
everyone else's posts are asinine and intentionally malicious. except the mood lightener Paul@dbtuned, keep up the picture posts. lol
02-23-2009 | 03:14 PM
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I don't pity them, I pray for them... a non-believer's "non-existent" master will devour them.
James 2:19 (New International Version)
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
[B]Mark 5 (New International Version)
Mark 5
The Healing of a Demon-possessed Man
1They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.[a] 2When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him any more, not even with a chain. 4For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
6When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!" 8For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!"
9Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
"My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many." 10And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.
11A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12The demons begged Jesus, "Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them." 13He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.
Luke 4 (New International Version)
40When the sun was setting, the people brought to Jesus all who had various kinds of sickness, and laying his hands on each one, he healed them. 41Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.[h]
Even the demons acknowledge God and Jesus, and they shudder.
James 2:19 (New International Version)
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
[B]Mark 5 (New International Version)
Mark 5
The Healing of a Demon-possessed Man
1They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.[a] 2When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him any more, not even with a chain. 4For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
6When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!" 8For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!"
9Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
"My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many." 10And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.
11A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12The demons begged Jesus, "Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them." 13He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.
Luke 4 (New International Version)
40When the sun was setting, the people brought to Jesus all who had various kinds of sickness, and laying his hands on each one, he healed them. 41Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.[h]
Even the demons acknowledge God and Jesus, and they shudder.
thats allot of words. how many of them were actually written by jesus? how many of them were written by james, luke, or mark? how many of those words were written by people who knew james, luke or mark?
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the texts you worship were written 350 years after the approximated time of the man named Jesus.
David Koresh's words are more relevant then these.
