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Old 01-20-2009, 11:07 AM
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Accidental shots happen. Cheney's was just so blown out of proportion because he was the V.P. **** happens and when someone in the spot light does something wrong the news takes it for a joy ride.
Then everyone jumps on it as a way to further their own agenda. Pathetic.
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Are there any Military Men/Women here? How do they feel about the new President and hes view of the war?
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Originally Posted by CaliSuby
Guns are cool...like i said before i have one. There are alot of reasons why there should be some new laws for guns, my main one is just to keep the families safe! I dont know if you guys have seem of heard whats going on in Salinas,Ca. but there has been so many shootings lately...even one at the Mall not that long ago... there ARE people who dont need to have access to guns for good reasons...and we just want our families safe..its all..

Most of those guns in those shooting were not bought legally anyways. So how is it keeping the guns out of the hands of the "shooters" by taking them out of the hands of people who deserve them?
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
Yes stand by your country whether you like whats going on or not. Personally i don't like Obama or Biden, but it is what the country voted for, so as a citizen of the U.S. this is what I'm stuck with. I will deal with it and still be part of my country. But sticking up for your country only when you like who is in office is just being a hypocrit.
agreed.

i never had much faith in the words that people in office say. i can only go by the way that they talk and what they do. Obama is a great speaker, i feel charged up and confident when i hear the amount of passion and strength that he puts out. i hope he can deliver. Work starts tomorrow, so we'll see.
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Originally Posted by CaliSuby
Never did i say that only whites cant handle there guns...never did i say that...
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Originally Posted by Unit 91
You truly don't understand how it all works and really should research it a bit. Passing law after law governing possession of firearms isn't going to stop the shootings. If someone wants a gun, they'll get one.
NO unit 91, but i do know that we need something else...somthing safer.
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I don't know why people are so worried about their guns when the 2nd Amendment; one of the oldest has not been repealed. As I've said before, "The right to bear arms" as far as this gun crazy totting country is concerned will not be repealed. BTW, compared to other countries the US is not comparable to being gun crazy....lol, in the Philippines it was almost surprising not to have a gun in your house.

Great speech by Obama holding the people accountable. I still remember all the people in early 2001 with new homes on sub-prime loans (0 down) that did not truly take into account how much of a long-term investment that asset was.

However, I just wish more of the golden parachute CEOs that ran their companies to the ground while being exempt from prosecution would be accountable instead of the general concensus. I'm sure Enron execs as examples was a good start but not enough.

With Bush Jr. in office; these crooks were pretty much untouchable and with lower tax brackets then when Clinton was in office.

Just for reference the Clinton administration took 6 years to get back in the black from a 300 billion dollar deficit that Bush Sr. left. On top of that it was also a recession, that he entered into.

Something to ponder which was a good sign when Obama was putting his cabinet together; he is staffing the same experienced people that was in that same Clinton administration that got us out of that previous debt. So it's an experienced crew that has dealt with this before.

BTW, I was a Rodham-Clinton supporter when the elections were running all the way through. I did not feel Obama had the right plan in place to correct this economy but his moves after he was elected has changed my viewpoint quite a bit. IMHO, it's a great direction.
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Then everyone jumps on it as a way to further their own agenda. Pathetic.
Exactly, but i know of two of my friends who got accidentally shot when they were out hunting with their families. No one thought that the person who shot them was incapable of holding a firearm no longer, just **** happens and you move on from it.
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yeah......... right


bye bye guns
you vote and some win and some lose. Just how it works. Just gotta deal with it.

And you are NOT losing your guns.
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im just happy cause now jessie jackson has no excuse not to shut the **** up
Amen to that!
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by av98

Just for reference the Clinton administration took 6 years to get back in the black from a 300 billion dollar deficit that Bush Sr. left. On top of that it was also a recession, that he entered into.
incorrect.

there was no surplus, it was statistically fabricated.

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16


While not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, it is aggravating seeing Clinton's record promoted as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the cold hard facts support that position. In fact, far from a $360 billion reduction in the national debt in FY1998-FY2000, there was an increase of $281 billion.
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I was wondering how he could spend that much...

How will he handle our money for the next 4 yrs?
Better than W. I bet you that much.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
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You mean like Bush did?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by flatline
Its not obama im worried about really, its ****ing biden that sack of ****.

hes the one who made the california assault weapon ban in the first place.

only 3% of violent crimes an assault weapon is involved.

The majority of weapons involved are stabbing instruments.

KNOW WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON BEFORE YOU START BANNING **** YOU IDIOT.

You are taking firearms away from civilians who may need them for protection. Criminals will ALWAYS get firearms regardless.

Oh man its a bad day. im pissed. im going to clean my rifle
you need more than a handgun for home protection why?

what kind of animal you hunting with a 50bmg?

I don't like it either, but, I can understand.
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Originally Posted by CaliSuby
NO unit 91, but i do know that we need something else...somthing safer.
Education for the people and stricter punishment for law breakers is a good start.
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