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Old 02-10-2009, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Magish
The goal is to stop unemployment from rising above 9% in 2009. That is the short term. The main way this would be accomplished is through jobs created by large scale public works projects. That is the theory, at least.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...013101484.html

I think this is a pretty fair analysis of the stimulus.
and those projects will start tomorrow? do you have any idea how long it takes "large public works projects" take to get rolling, even in urgent cases?
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Originally Posted by Magish
That is completely irrelevant.
It was relevant to illustrating how I feel about central banking.
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and those projects will start tomorrow? do you have any idea how long it takes "large public works projects" take to get rolling, even in urgent cases?
Bingo.

You've found the biggest problem with the stimulus package.

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It was relevant to illustrating how I feel about central banking.
Touché
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i say again: what specific measures in the bill will solve unemployment in the near term
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Originally Posted by Magish
Touché
I think you're right, by the way, regarding the removal of central banking. It's highly unlikely that it will go away any time soon.
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Originally Posted by irrational x
i say again: what specific measures in the bill will solve unemployment in the near term
I couldn't tell you, I haven't read the bill.

However, according to the same CBO report that projected a 0.1%-0.3% decrease in GDP in the long run the package should create 1.3-3.9 million jobs in 2010. From an economic standpoint, that is still pretty short term.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...hort-term.html
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Originally Posted by Magish
I couldn't tell you, I haven't read the bill.

However, according to the same CBO report that projected a 0.1%-0.3% decrease in GDP in the long run the package should create 1.3-3.9 million jobs in 2010. From an economic standpoint, that is still pretty short term.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...hort-term.html
not very short term when you consider the rate that unemployment is rising.
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Originally Posted by Magish
I couldn't tell you, I haven't read the bill.

However, according to the same CBO report that projected a 0.1%-0.3% decrease in GDP in the long run the package should create 1.3-3.9 million jobs in 2010. From an economic standpoint, that is still pretty short term.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...hort-term.html
Heres one (of many) projections that is slighlty more skeptical than the CBO:



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...n-on-stimulus/
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Originally Posted by Magish
Heres one (of many) projections that is slighlty more skeptical than the CBO:



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...n-on-stimulus/
it still doesn't answer my question
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Originally Posted by irrational x
it still doesn't answer my question
I already told you, I do not know the specifics. I'll try and find them and get back to you when I have time
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Originally Posted by Magish
I already told you, I do not know the specifics. I'll try and find them and get back to you when I have time
thats the problem. there are no specifics. we are signing away what will, by most accounts, be over 2 trillion dollars for spending on.... no one knows on what.

how about this: give the states me money instead. they are better equipped to deal with local issues like unemployment than the Fed is
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^^^

I like how they identified that everything will level out by Q1 of 2014.

Besides, don't you know that tax cuts fix everything? This whole economic crisis is obviously because we're all paying way too much in taxes and and not allow honest and ethical banks and corporations to apply that money into new jobs. Because if they got more tax cuts, there's no way they'd blow the money on themselves or just save it for later. They'd would definitely use it to create jobs; no reason not to trust them.
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Here's a fun drinking game:

While listening to Barry speak, you must take a shot every time he says, "Ummm..."
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Schumer: The American People Don't Care About Pork Projects In Stimulus

Hahahahaaa.....Let us eat cake!!!!!
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Originally Posted by magish
heres one (of many) projections that is slighlty more skeptical than the cbo:



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...n-on-stimulus/
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