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Old 02-03-2009, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
This little article sums up my feelings pretty well right about now-

"Obama: Enough Of This Crap!"

http://market-ticker.org/archives/76...This-Crap.html
This is FOUR people who you've appointed that can't pay their damn taxes, including your Treasury Secretary?

The latest is that Daschle has withdrawn, of course.

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN?

I'll tell you what would be change. Since it appears that a huge percentage of the current and former Congressional delegation has cheated on its taxes - after all, what are the odds you only picked the tax cheats, if you want me to believe in your idea of CHANGE you will immediately order all member of Congress in both Houses to undergo full IRS audits all the way back to the Statute of Limitations (three years), along with all of their staff.

You and I know know it won't happen, but I'll tell you what - I keep hearing people say they're going to file absolute crap this year. Utter garbage. "The Dog ate my Schedule C."

If The American People do this, Mr. President, government funding will collapse. The IRS can't possibly audit everyone and we all know it.

Your administration is dangerously close to creating a full-on tax revolt among Americans. You would not believe how often I have heard this among people both online and off in the last couple of weeks. The anger, especially when the people who are cheating are folks like Daschle and Geithner, is VISCERAL - these are the people who both wrote the tax code and were involved in the bailouts and handouts which you expect we the people - ordinary Americans - to pay for.

Here is what Daschle said previously:

"Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. " Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

But you, Mr. President, expect Americans to file truthful tax returns and pay their taxes as due?

I file and pay every year exactly what I owe. No cheating, no games, no BS. I spend upwards of a full week preparing and checking my tax return to make sure that I pay every dollar that is due (but not one more!) But now we discover that every day another one of your appointees in your "new day" for Washington DC has cheated on their taxes and in the case of Daschle and Geithner they knew they owed the money and didn't pay until you tapped them?

Against this backdrop you expect ordinary Americans to file and pay for bankster bailouts to cover the fraudulent actions of the banking and securitization industry?

You might want to rethink this one, and I can come up with only two ways to do it:

* Audit EVERY Congressperson and EVERY staffer in your administration, including yourself. Everyone, all the way back to the statute of limitations, with the results of those audits made public.
* Ditch the IRS and the current tax system entirely (mooting the question) and move the nation to The Fair Tax, thereby firing all the tax lobbyists and game-players in DC and elsewhere.

Frankly I prefer #2 but #1 is acceptable.

"Do nothing", on the other hand, may well NOT be accepted by The American people.

If what I hear in my day-to-day the patience of "The People" is about done.
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Do you smell what Barack is cookin?
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smells like BS

mccaniacs would have pwned
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
smells like BS

mccaniacs would have pwned
They're like Hulkamaniacs, but much older and grumpier.
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His "save the middle class" schtick really doesn't apply to me anyways even though I am middle class.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
They're like Hulkamaniacs, but much older and grumpier.
i liked when they went on WWE to film some promos it was funny
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His "save the middle class" schtick really doesn't apply to me anyways even though I am middle class.
Well, it's just a schtik and doesn't apply to anybody.

Politicians are salesmen with nothing to sell. Then they get elected into office and end up pissing on anyone that doesn't own a golden umbrella.
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Well, it's just a schtik and doesn't apply to anybody.

Politicians are salesmen with nothing to sell. Then they get elected into office and end up pissing on anyone that doesn't own a golden umbrella.
Agree, but he was really trying to sell the schtick to the labor unions.
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Artist of famed Obama poster arrested in Boston

BOSTON -- A street artist famous for his red, white and blue "Hope" posters of President Obama has been arrested on warrants accusing him of tagging property with graffiti, police said today.

Shepard Fairey, 38, was arrested Friday night on his way to the Institute of Contemporary Art for a kickoff event for his first solo exhibition, called "Supply and Demand."
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
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What a ****ing *******!!! That's what you get for being a complete moron.


Think Obama will pardon him if he's sent to county?
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obama has been very arrogant so far.
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Obama to Congress: Pass Stimulus, Don't Play Games

Why is Barry in such a rush to **** us?
What is his real motivation for this Socialist Bill?

He said the recession has left the nation so weak that only the federal government can "jolt our economy back to life." And he declared that failure to act swiftly and boldly "could turn a crisis into a catastrophe."
Is He really that arrogant to think that the same entity that got us into this mess is the only one that can fix it?

"The plan is not perfect," the president said. "No plan is. I can't tell you for sure that everything in this plan will work exactly as we hope, but I can tell you with complete confidence that a failure to act will only deepen this crisis as well as the pain felt by millions of Americans."
If we act, we might fail.
If we don't act, we will fail.

History has proven that his plan will not only fail to bring about "change", but will lengthen the recession and most likely cause a depression.

"This is not your ordinary, run of the mill recession," he said. Obama said the United States could tumble into the kind of economic pain that Japan endured in the 1990s — the "lost decade" when that nation showed no economic growth.
A partial truth...Japan tried at least 7 "bail outs during this Lost Decade, and they not only did they fail to help the econmy, the bail outs actually retarded any economic growth.

Is this the change he promised?
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned

If we act, we might fail.
If we don't act, we will fail.

History has proven that his plan will not only fail to bring about "change", but will lengthen the recession and most likely cause a depression.
Examples? (edit, you have one. I'm reading about it)

Furthermore, how would you propose we fix this mess? I am not convinced that tax cut after tax cut will solve this mess. IMHO, it would simply leave us just as deep in the hole but with no real gains from it.
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Originally Posted by Magish
Examples? (edit, you have one. I'm reading about it)

Furthermore, how would you propose we fix this mess? I am not convinced that tax cut after tax cut will solve this mess. IMHO, it would simply leave us just as deep in the hole but with no real gains from it.
violent overthrow.
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Originally Posted by Magish
Examples? (edit, you have one. I'm reading about it)

Furthermore, how would you propose we fix this mess? I am not convinced that tax cut after tax cut will solve this mess. IMHO, it would simply leave us just as deep in the hole but with no real gains from it.
Doing Nothing.

It worked for the Recessions/Depressions of 1907 & 1920, which lasted ~1year.
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