Gen Powell endorses Obama
10-28-2008, 12:30 PM
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WWI we had reason. (kinda, Lusitania was sunk so we went to war, but the Germans were right, we were arming the Brits)...
WWII we had reason to fight japan, and used that as a reason to fight in Europe as well even though many Americans did not want to go fight there pre Pearl Harbor.
Vietnam - Didn't need to go there. Helping UN
Korea - same
Quait - Well, we were asked, so we went...
Afghanistan, yep, definitely needed to go cause that's where Bin Laden was supposedly.
Iraq- 03... hmmm, sorry. Don't see the reason. All the reasons given to date were false. No Al Qaueda there before we went, no WMD... Had nothing to do with 9/11... so, didn't NEED to go there. We did anyways.
10-28-2008, 12:38 PM
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Also, they are SMALL, SMALL percentage that lived in Iraq. Native Americans were everywhere when Europeans came to the US. 3%-7% are christian in iraq in the past 50 years. Number are getting smaller. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...iz.html#People
Don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be treated horribly, but seriously, if you have a president that hates you why even want to live there. That's why my friends families left Iraq. Same reason why many of my afghan friends families left Afghanistan in the the late 80s, due to the rise of the Taliban.
10-28-2008, 12:51 PM
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You missed the part where I said "I'd have left."
Also, they are SMALL, SMALL percentage that lived in Iraq. Native Americans were everywhere when Europeans came to the US. 3%-7% are christian in iraq in the past 50 years. Number are getting smaller. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...iz.html#People.
Also, they are SMALL, SMALL percentage that lived in Iraq. Native Americans were everywhere when Europeans came to the US. 3%-7% are christian in iraq in the past 50 years. Number are getting smaller. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...iz.html#People.
but your still not responding to our points... that you dont know what your talking about.
CIA factbook doesn't equal comprehension. You even spelled Kuwait wrong. so actually, Maybe you should glance over the fact book a little more.
10-28-2008, 12:54 PM
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yah, most of them fled to Iran where they aren't persecuted nearly as much as they were under Saddam.
but your still not responding to our points... that you dont know what your talking about.
CIA factbook doesn't equal comprehension. You even spelled Kuwait wrong. so actually, Maybe you should glance over the fact book a little more.
but your still not responding to our points... that you dont know what your talking about.
CIA factbook doesn't equal comprehension. You even spelled Kuwait wrong. so actually, Maybe you should glance over the fact book a little more.
10-28-2008, 08:17 PM
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The American people got duped into going into Iraq, that's what happened.
At the best we were misled and at the worst we were outright lied to. The reasons for going have changed, what like, 3 or 4 times now?
At least General Powell had the ***** to step away when he realized what a load of BS he was fed and that he turned around and fed the UN and us. It's really too bad he couldn't drag Bush and Cheney along with him when he left.
Gagan is right that there are so many other troubled spots around the world where people are dying at a far greater rate than in Iraq. If we were going to be Team America World Police then we could have done much better good going into a place like Sudan where there really is Genocide happening....Not the fake "because President Bush said so" Genocide
You two (Xevious and Irrational) sound like a couple of Republican parrots with all the talking points you are spewing. Did you get those right off the RNC webpage?
My favorite part was where someone said he must be for the killing of children...That was absolutely comical....
At the best we were misled and at the worst we were outright lied to. The reasons for going have changed, what like, 3 or 4 times now?
At least General Powell had the ***** to step away when he realized what a load of BS he was fed and that he turned around and fed the UN and us. It's really too bad he couldn't drag Bush and Cheney along with him when he left.
Gagan is right that there are so many other troubled spots around the world where people are dying at a far greater rate than in Iraq. If we were going to be Team America World Police then we could have done much better good going into a place like Sudan where there really is Genocide happening....Not the fake "because President Bush said so" Genocide
You two (Xevious and Irrational) sound like a couple of Republican parrots with all the talking points you are spewing. Did you get those right off the RNC webpage?
My favorite part was where someone said he must be for the killing of children...That was absolutely comical....
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10-29-2008, 08:13 AM
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The American people got duped into going into Iraq, that's what happened.
At the best we were misled and at the worst we were outright lied to. The reasons for going have changed, what like, 3 or 4 times now?
At least General Powell had the ***** to step away when he realized what a load of BS he was fed and that he turned around and fed the UN and us. It's really too bad he couldn't drag Bush and Cheney along with him when he left.
Gagan is right that there are so many other troubled spots around the world where people are dying at a far greater rate than in Iraq. If we were going to be Team America World Police then we could have done much better good going into a place like Sudan where there really is Genocide happening....Not the fake "because President Bush said so" Genocide
You two (Xevious and Irrational) sound like a couple of Republican parrots with all the talking points you are spewing. Did you get those right off the RNC webpage?
My favorite part was where someone said he must be for the killing of children...That was absolutely comical....
At the best we were misled and at the worst we were outright lied to. The reasons for going have changed, what like, 3 or 4 times now?
At least General Powell had the ***** to step away when he realized what a load of BS he was fed and that he turned around and fed the UN and us. It's really too bad he couldn't drag Bush and Cheney along with him when he left.
Gagan is right that there are so many other troubled spots around the world where people are dying at a far greater rate than in Iraq. If we were going to be Team America World Police then we could have done much better good going into a place like Sudan where there really is Genocide happening....Not the fake "because President Bush said so" Genocide
You two (Xevious and Irrational) sound like a couple of Republican parrots with all the talking points you are spewing. Did you get those right off the RNC webpage?
My favorite part was where someone said he must be for the killing of children...That was absolutely comical....
there are many things that i am, however, republican is not one of them. Maybe if you actually could read you would take a look at the platform and policies for both parties and compare them to this debate. then, maybe you should read the thread (and probably a book) before you open your mouth?
10-29-2008, 08:55 AM
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It's funny that intelligent thought can only be had if someone agrees with your politics.
there are many things that i am, however, republican is not one of them. Maybe if you actually could read you would take a look at the platform and policies for both parties and compare them to this debate. then, maybe you should read the thread (and probably a book) before you open your mouth?
And I can understand why you wouldn't want to associate yourself with that party. Not many people want to these days....That said you sure do parrot the tenets of the RNC ideology well, if you're not a Republicant then you sure had me fooled.
10-29-2008, 09:27 AM
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It could only be labeled rational inference if the point made was a rational one, otherwise it's just inference. Saying that because someone does not support the BS war in Iraq is akin to being for the killing of babies is, well, irrational. By that logic we could fight wars from now till the end of time since there are atrocities being committed all over the place all the time.
It's funny that intelligent thought can only be had if someone agrees with your politics.
It's funny that intelligent thought can only be had if someone agrees with your politics.
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Really? the book comment? Is that all you have? Every single argument you make ends in that same line...Show some creativity....
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And I can understand why you wouldn't want to associate yourself with that party. Not many people want to these days....That said you sure do parrot the tenets of the RNC ideology well, if you're not a Republicant then you sure had me fooled.
Conversely, the reality of the conversation is that you are spewing DNC bull**** by attempting to dismiss a valid argument as 'a republican talking point'.
Son, your like a child that's wandered into an adult conversation. how 'bout this. when you can come up with an original thought, we will start taking you seriously.
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