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Old 10-24-2008 | 02:22 PM
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Funny story. Got popped for carrying concealed in SF on the street. Some lady saw my pisol as I was in a comprimising position grabbing somthing off the ground called the cops and I was basically approached by three officers at gunpoint and laid out. After I was finally allowed to produce my bage and ID the very polite cop threated to confiscate my weapon and arrest me. Somthing about the liberal azs hippies being so afraid of guns there is a law in SF that other agencies cannot carry in the city. I kindly informed the cop that thier lame law was trumped by federal law passed by GHWB and I can pack a peice where ever I want. I hate gun controll. BTW let em all have full autos the accuracy sucks and they run out of bullets faster.
Old 10-24-2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shayhan27
Funny story. Got popped for carrying concealed in SF on the street. Some lady saw my pisol as I was in a comprimising position grabbing somthing off the ground called the cops and I was basically approached by three officers at gunpoint and laid out. After I was finally allowed to produce my bage and ID the very polite cop threated to confiscate my weapon and arrest me. Somthing about the liberal azs hippies being so afraid of guns there is a law in SF that other agencies cannot carry in the city. I kindly informed the cop that thier lame law was trumped by federal law passed by GHWB and I can pack a peice where ever I want. I hate gun controll. BTW let em all have full autos the accuracy sucks and they run out of bullets faster.
Well, that's SF for you... morons.
Old 10-24-2008 | 02:55 PM
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Well, that's SF for you... morons.
yes the "progressives" as you put it.
Old 10-24-2008 | 03:07 PM
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yes the "progressives" as you put it.
indeed
Old 10-24-2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned


This is the most ignorant statement regarding this issue.

The OK Corral involved the police shooting civilians, some of which were alleged criminals.

Read "More Guns, Less Crime", look at the stats, etc.

You have no right to police protection!

If you call 9-1-1, the police do not have to respond, end of story.

Response time in my neck of the woods is 30 minutes if I'm lucky.
I don't have the "right" to police protection, but I also don't have the right of your protection either. How many "assault" weapons do you need for your right to "self" defence?

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why dont you look up the rate of violent crime in countries without gun rights. England for example has a much higher rate of violent crime. their gun violence is pretty low, but allot more people get beaten to death.
Irrelevant to anything I've ever said. I am in no way endorsing the banning of guns in the US. There are certain weapons that have been made illegal in certain states. I'm am neither for or against these laws.

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Exactly, why in the hell would I wait or even make a phone call for that matter when my life is being threatened to have a guy that is likely not even close to as trained as I am in the use of firearms. It doesn't make sense. To think the government has the right to limit my ability to protect myself is bull****.
I made no mention of anyone's life being in danger. If you're so ell trained in weapons, you should have no problem neutralizing a threat to your lfe with a 45 as you do with an AR15.

Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
Yup, outside of New Orleans there are not too many robberies and that's because everyone in the state of Louisiana owns a weapon and Louisiana has a "shoot the intruder" law. If anyone breaks into your home you have every right to kill them in the state of Louisiana, no questions asked. In New Orleans I always carry a concealed weapon. If all the law abiding citizens carried them how many robberies do you think there would be? Not many.
What you are allowed to do with trespassers/intruders in your home and what kind of guns you can buy at WalMart are two separate topics.
Old 10-24-2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
I don't have the "right" to police protection, but I also don't have the right of your protection either. How many "assault" weapons do you need for your right to "self" defence?
WHAT?


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I made no mention of anyone's life being in danger. If you're so ell trained in weapons, you should have no problem neutralizing a threat to your lfe with a 45 as you do with an AR15.
spoken like someone who is not proficient with either.

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What you are allowed to do with trespassers/intruders in your home and what kind of guns you can buy at WalMart are two separate topics.
why? who says i shouldnt be able to buy an ar15 at walmart? what makes an ar15 different than a zip gun?
Old 10-24-2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
WHAT?




spoken like someone who is not proficient with either.



why? who says i shouldnt be able to buy an ar15 at walmart? what makes an ar15 different than a zip gun?
1) Just because you have no written law that says the police must protect you, even though it's written on the side of the cruiser, doesn't mean that you are the police for everyone else. This is in reference to people thinking their safer with 100 guns, rather than 6.

2) I have my marksmanship medals. I do just fine. I invite anyone to try me using themselves as a target.

3) Really? If you think they're the same, then you should be content with a zip gun.
Old 10-24-2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
I don't have the "right" to police protection, but I also don't have the right of your protection either. How many "assault" weapons do you need for your right to "self" defence?

10.



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Irrelevant to anything I've ever said. I am in no way endorsing the banning of guns in the US. There are certain weapons that have been made illegal in certain states. I'm am neither for or against these laws.
OK...so "undecided" are you?



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I made no mention of anyone's life being in danger. If you're so ell trained in weapons, you should have no problem neutralizing a threat to your lfe with a 45 as you do with an AR15.
.45 cal rounds do not penetrate body armor.



Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
What you are allowed to do with trespassers/intruders in your home and what kind of guns you can buy at WalMart are two separate topics.
Agreed.

Tresspassing outside of the house, no biggie.
Inside my house, huge problem that will end poorly for the intruder.
Old 10-24-2008 | 06:59 PM
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Sorry...I missed this post.

Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
1) Just because you have no written law that says the police must protect you, even though it's written on the side of the cruiser, doesn't mean that you are the police for everyone else. This is in reference to people thinking their safer with 100 guns, rather than 6.
I'd like one of each of the following:

1. Select fire, 5.56mm rifle.
2. Semi auto .45 cal pistol.
3. 12 gauge pump shotgun.
4. heavy barrel 7mm - 338 cal long rifle.

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2) I have my marksmanship medals.
I got a Rifle Marksmanship Merit Badge too!

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I do just fine. I invite anyone to try me using themselves as a target.
Do I get to shoot back?


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3) Really? If you think they're the same, then you should be content with a zip gun.
I read that as "why is an AR 15 treated like a zip gun?"
Old 10-24-2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Sorry...I missed this post.



I'd like one of each of the following:

1. Select fire, 5.56mm rifle.
2. Semi auto .45 cal pistol.
3. 12 gauge pump shotgun.
4. heavy barrel 7mm - 338 cal long rifle.
So you really need more arms than you have arms?..... ha ha punny. So who's robbing your house, these guys?



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I got a Rifle Marksmanship Merit Badge too!
Better recognize That's cool, I'm not the one calling people out.



Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Do I get to shoot back?
As long as you use a zip gun and I get the AR15.




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I read that as "why is an AR 15 treated like a zip gun?"
I read that as "Now lets compare an AR15 to a zip gun since neither one is sold at WalMart".
Old 10-24-2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
OK...so "undecided" are you?
Edit: I take that back as it was a bad example and I just saw a hot pic of Jessica Biel and I wanted to tie that into the discussion. But I digress. There's nothing on either side of the discussion to sway me enough to think of current gun regs to be helpfull or unhelpful.

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Old 10-25-2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
So you really need more arms than you have arms?..... ha ha punny. So who's robbing your house, these guys?
Remember, the purpose of fire arm ownership is not limited to self protection, but country protection and more importantly, protection from the gov't.

Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
Edit: I take that back as it was a bad example and I just saw a hot pic of Jessica Biel and I wanted to tie that into the discussion. But I digress. There's nothing on either side of the discussion to sway me enough to think of current gun regs to be helpfull or unhelpful.
She's not my favorite hottie, but I can certainly understand!
Old 10-27-2008 | 02:54 PM
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I've never believed in owning more than one type of each weapon for a few reasons. First, because they're expensive and I work on government wages. Secondly, because I can only shoot one at a time. Thats why I stress quality over quantity. As mentioned above, I'll take 1 .45, 1 AK or AR series, 1 shotgun and one long gun. Thats all I ask. They don't even have to be fully-auto.
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
I've never believed in owning more than one type of each weapon for a few reasons. First, because they're expensive and I work on government wages. Secondly, because I can only shoot one at a time. Thats why I stress quality over quantity. As mentioned above, I'll take 1 .45, 1 AK or AR series, 1 shotgun and one long gun. Thats all I ask. They don't even have to be fully-auto.
I also need to provide fire arms for my son, two daughters, and my wife.
Old 10-27-2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
I got a Rifle Marksmanship Merit Badge too!
So did this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman


He was a damn good shot


I am as well, (shot and eagle scout) and I don't shoot too much. If I had done so more regularly, I'd definitely be shooting competition for a while now.

Too bad, I'm still a damn good shot.

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