wait, dont you wear a turban?

 

or was that someone else.... i forget... /shrug

 

Yes I do... what's your point?

 

fix0red...The nation is doing just fine thank you...

 

pot kettle black, thats my point.

 

And the award for the most idiotic post of the year goes to.......

Seriously, you are an idiot if you think wearing a turban equates to Ultra-Fundamental religious beliefs.

 

no it equates to Sikhism **** nut. I find all religions equally fundamentalist appalling. Myabe you shoudl read a book before you tell someone what is and is not part of a religion you know nothing about.

 

to be clear, my understanding is that the turban is derived from a turkish headdress and is commonly used in Sikhism... but i could be mistaken. Gagan?

 

First of all your statement makes no sense. Try it in basic english first. Did you mean that you find all fundamentalist religions equally appalling? I would agree about that but then I don't know anyone that would label Sikhism as a fundamentalist religion. So then it appears that You're the one with the issue here. If that is the case here then you also mean that anyone that wears a cross around their neck and practices Christianity is appalling, as is someone who wears a star of david and lights the menora around hanukkah time, right? They are about as fundamentalist as Sikh's...

Secondly there are many different cultures and religions that wear a sort of turban, so how are you only referring to Sikhs?

And maybe it isn't me that needs to read a book. Step outside of your ethnocentric viewpoint for a second and take a look, the world isn't that bad.

 

www.ratemyturban.com

the owner is a sihk trying to raise awareness about them

 

My syntax was correct, i was missing an 'and'. I find religions to be fundamentalist and appalling.

I don't have a problem with the people i have a problem with the religion. People have the free right to express their beliefs or ideas no matter how ridiculous, unfortunately for them they are supporting the single most destructive force in human history and quite often they are imposing their beliefs on others forcibly. not their fault, they are just sheep.

Actually on the religion scale i would rank Buddhism and Sikhism pretty close when it comes to openness and lack of evil which is WAY below any of the other religions you mentioned. however, i don't know much beyond the religions basics.


In Islam, the turban is typically worn only by an Iman or the like. Headscarves worn else ware are typically cultural not religion and in many cases have been replaced by a more simple garment (Saudi Arabia) or a more functional one (Afghanistan). In fact, i have two or 3 examples at home (Kurdish, Afghan, and Saudi), if you'd like, i can bring them out to Fridays meet.

the headscarf is not the issue here, lest you forget, a baseball hat is a "headscarf" too.

You misused ethnocentric, considering i'm a WASP thats bagging on Christianity.

 

nice ninja edit

 

it was inflammatory and I wasn't trying to be.

Either way we could argue about semantics all day long. My point is that to use fundamentalist and Sikh in the same sentence is stupid, because todays definition of fundamentalist is closely tied to Islamic extremists, Christian fundamentalist's and things like that. One of the main Sikh beliefs include the equality of everyone regardless of race, creed, religion, sex, etc. I would hardly group those with the likes of people who blow themselves up or blow up other things in the name of their religion.

 

Fundamentalism - deep and totalistic commitment to a belief in, and strict adherence to a set of basic principles (often religious in nature)

the problem is you are applying your general presumption that 'fundamentalist' is used to describe Islamic extremists instead of its actual definition. Fundamentalism can refer to all kinds of things (investing, teaching, etc).

Sikhism is by far one of the 'best' religions in terms of human rights following closely behind Buddhism (which i would argue is the 'best' because it does not have a strict common core of beliefs, which makes it not really a religion...).

but i digress, we are talking about guns. and while religion and violence go hand in hand this discussion should doesnt really belong in a debate about constitutional gun rights.

 

The orgins could easily be from a time long before Sikhism which is 15th (14xx AD) century, and from the middle east, it's something I've ever looked up.

But what I do know is that Indians wearing turbans is something that was done in India for at least 2 millennium, don't know about longer than that. Hindu's have worn turbans for quite a long time before the start of the Sikh religion, so have Muslims, and other peoples who aren't even related to either religion, like Moroccans in Roman times.

So I wear a turban more cause it's a cultural thing than a religious thing because personally I believe reglion is a persona thing, and not to be imposed onto others. Personally, I don't believe in much of my Sikhism says, mostly because over the years it went from being super peaceful into super militant (due to the never ending assault and persecution of Sikhs by the Muslims ans Hindus of the times). Today we are only really persecuted by Hindus, not by Muslims any longer.

So, no, I don't agree with your comment about pot kettle thing. It's known that only a small portion of any religion are the ones who claim fundamentalism and cause issues within a more accepting and tolerant society. It's just that in the past we've had large movements in Islam and Christianity for conversions, and for the most part these are gone, but entirely. I don't feel I'm a hypocrite due to my unlikely of fundamentalists, of any religion...