HellaDumb

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Stanford and all the big-name schools. If one adopted white and one adopted black from the same family, which kid is going to have the opportunity to rise to the top?

Schools have taken on the charter of diversity so they all look like they are helping minorities, not because of any federal mandate. Notice how the stats of all the schools are similar? When you have a limited class size, and only 100 seats for whites, white people are rejected solely based on the color of their skin!

"Sorry white folk. Your lives are on hold! Hollah!!!!! Can I get a whoo whoooooo?"

HellaDumb

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Oh, I will get in because I'm willing to work as hard as it takes. See you in the court room ***** *******!

MVWRX

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Good luck. However I will never personally choose to be in any courtroom for any reason, so I won't see you there.

MVWRX

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I don't know anyone who does admissions for anything except science and engineering, so I can't say for any fields but those, but I do know several people (one of whom is my father) that do admissions for science and engineering. None of them have/use quotas for race. They try as hard as possible to evaluate using only the qualifications of the applicant.

MVWRX

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Another point I hadn't thought about that this discussion brings to mind. I'm not sure if you should compare the #s to the %s of the US population; since the US is the #1 country for graduate and professional education, we should be comparing the stats to the %s for the whole world (since we educate a large percentage of the educationally elite that return to other countries).

HellaDumb

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True if you are talking about graduate and post-graduate work accross the board, but law school for the most part prepares students to take local State Bar exams, in order to practice law in this country.

Law school demographic data most clearly backs up what I've said, that whites are being left behind.

Unregistered

Not really. They teach you law not just that States law. If anything they give you a broad education. A friend of mine that graduates this year goes to school in Dallas. (Forgot which one.) She went to work in Oklahoma during a summer break. Friends of hers have gone all over. Whites are not being "left behind". But I don't feel the need to argue with it with you.

lojasmo

The most qualified one, I should think....I propose that's why you're actually pissed off...there are people of color out there who are smarter than you.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...e/summary.html

Yup...no affirmative action at California public universities....and good luck suing a private university on this issue.


Bullshyte.

Aren't you one of those bizniches always whining and complaining about the cost of unnecessary litigation?

No. You haven't proven that whites are applying to law schools in a disapportionately lesser number than are being admitted...relative to persons of color.

HellaDumb

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Lojas and Mv, you guys are blind.

lojasmo

I get irritated by people of a priveleged class or race whining about deserving more than they earn.

You have provided absolutely no evidence that your level of aptitude merits more reward than you have been provided. As far as I'm concerned, you have NOTHING to complain about.

gpatmac

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Yet another thread I've read about 2 statements from and then stopped.

Hella, you know I think you're a bigot based soley on the trend of your posts.

Why are you so concerned with race? Are there times when you can point to where you were personally hurt by others who aren't of your race? Do other races scare you? Do you feel you're better than an entire group of people? What is it about you that makes you better or at least different in a way that you should receive different treatment. Or do you feel that those who've been legally granted the ability to receive different treatment not available to yourself really shouldn't be granted that legal protection?

What are you doing about it besides posting on such a narrow media such as the political portion of an import car enthusiasts website? Are you complaining to your parents? Have you sought counsel from your pastor? Have you sought support from your city councilman? Have you formed a lobby group or at least sought out a like-minded-to-yourself lobby? Have you organized rallies? Sought out signatures for your petition? Organized a militia to conduct your coup?

I know that this forum is designed for idle chit-chat, but I think you've got issues.

Unregistered

http://www.utexas.edu/opa/pubs/oncam...nrollment.html

Lets compare shall we?

A total of 3,050 graduate students at UT.

206 Hispanics
150 Asians
54 African American's

Do a little math and you come out with 410 none white students in UT grad school. That leaves us with a grand total of 2640 white grad students at UT.

~87% of the graduate students at UT are white. That leaves ~13% to be none white in grad school. Now granted they could of not included a group in those numbers that they had up. But even then I really really doubt it would be a larger number than Hispanics. So I must be missing something or you are just a bitter person with no facts to back up a thing you say. This is at a PUBLIC University that is cheap compared to other private schools. (Tuition is around 4 to 5 thousand a semester, I believe now.) Hence more minorities that are poor can afford to go there. And if you look at undergraduate enrollement numbers you'll see whites still are the overwhelming majority.

Percent wise it falls as follows.

A total of 45,646 undergraduate students at UT.
Whites lead the pack at ~68%
Asian Americans follow with ~15%
Hispanics are at ~13%
African Americans at ~4%
American Indian at ~4%

Now maybe im just blind, but it seems to me that again Whites are the overwhelming group at UT. The closet group are Asian Americans that are at 15% but that number is very biased since a large part of that group are international students. Again this is at a public university. The largest one in Texas and my alma mattar. Granted this is just one example but I can almost guarantee that it is the trend not the exception to the rule.

Talk about being a disgruntled white male.

lojasmo

Yup.
exactly. Given that California has eliminated affirmative action in public universities...I, in Minnesota am at a significantly greater disadvantage. I am not worried, however. I know that, because of my skills and work history, along with my test scores, will be able to enter graduate school without difficulty.

you won't hear me *****ing about affirmative action.

HellaDumb

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Look you ignoramus,

Bigot is defined as "one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

I think everyone should have the EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY. No handouts or limits on a group, and no dumbing down entry criteria in the name of diversity!
My wife and kids are Asian, so call me a racist if you like.

"Diversity" feeds Bigotry.
Look at all of the sanctioned SCHOOL clubs based solely on a particular race or religion. Yeah... argue that they aren't "partial to one's own group, religion, race, or political group, or that they don't exclude other that differ." Are you going to say the fixation with "how many people from each race" is my fault and I'm a bigot for evaluating LAW SCHOOL DEMOGRAPHICS! Yeah, you're for the double-standard that says ALL whites already have inside connections, so they can't have a "white club." FU YOU ARE THE RACIST

HellaDumb

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Just like all large US based Corporations, most schools have their own individual diversity programs. Man, wake up.