Diversity gone awry- Whites under-represented in higher learning
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
...it wouldn't be the first time you said something that was based on your paranoid opinion rather than stats...
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http://officialguide.lsac.org/search...sp?reg=SREGFRW
Berkeley:
Caucasians 41.3%
Minority 37%
Other 21.7%
Hastings:
Caucasians 45%
Minority 33.4%
Other 19.4%
Santa Clara:
Caucasians 50.6%
Minority 42.4%
Other 7%
Davis:
Cauc: 50.8%
Min: 37.7%
Oth: 10.3%
Stanford:
Cauc: 54.3
Min: 33.7%
Oth: 9.7%
UCSF:
Cauc: 57.4%
Min: 31.1%
Oth: 11.3%
GoldenGate:
Cauc: 57.6
Min: 38.6
Oth: 13.2
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Berkeley:
Caucasians 41.3%
Minority 37%
Other 21.7%
Hastings:
Caucasians 45%
Minority 33.4%
Other 19.4%
Santa Clara:
Caucasians 50.6%
Minority 42.4%
Other 7%
Davis:
Cauc: 50.8%
Min: 37.7%
Oth: 10.3%
Stanford:
Cauc: 54.3
Min: 33.7%
Oth: 9.7%
UCSF:
Cauc: 57.4%
Min: 31.1%
Oth: 11.3%
GoldenGate:
Cauc: 57.6
Min: 38.6
Oth: 13.2
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Uh...what's 'other'. International? Because if it is, then there are both whites and non-whites in that group. Or it's people who choose to report 'other' on their application. In which case they are probably white people like you who fear they will be rejected because they are not a minority...
Either way, you are really wrong on this for every single field except maybe (MAYBE) law.
Either way, you are really wrong on this for every single field except maybe (MAYBE) law.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
Either way, you are really wrong on this for every single field except maybe (MAYBE) law.
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According to the 2005 CIA World Fact (an official statistics agency), America is:
White
81.7% or 216 million, (Including Hispanics and those of Middle Eastern and North African descent)
69% (Excluding Hispanics but including Middle Easterners, North Africans, and others who checked "Some other race" in the Census)
Hispanics 14.1% or 41.3 million
Black or African American 12.9% or 36.4 million,
Asian 4.2% or 11.9 million,
American Indian 1.5% or 4.1 million,
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2%
Two or more races 2.4%
White
81.7% or 216 million, (Including Hispanics and those of Middle Eastern and North African descent)
69% (Excluding Hispanics but including Middle Easterners, North Africans, and others who checked "Some other race" in the Census)
Hispanics 14.1% or 41.3 million
Black or African American 12.9% or 36.4 million,
Asian 4.2% or 11.9 million,
American Indian 1.5% or 4.1 million,
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2%
Two or more races 2.4%
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And are you seriously trying to push the point that minorities are given some sort of advantage over whites in our system? Look at the richest people in the US...or the ones who are in charge of the largest companies...or the ones in power in the government....and then compare %s to the population.
...I can see a thread in the near future...by Helladumb...the title says "I got rejected from law school because of liberals and immigrants....
...I can see a thread in the near future...by Helladumb...the title says "I got rejected from law school because of liberals and immigrants....
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http://www.stanford.edu/dept/humsci/...ographics.html
Stanford Undergrad: 46% White (INCLUDING OTHER)
Stanford MBA CLASS OF 2007
Women 32%
International (includes Permanent Residents) 39%
U.S. Minority 25%
They left out caucasian. Anyone want to know why they left that out?
Look at those #s and take a guess.
Stanford Undergrad: 46% White (INCLUDING OTHER)
Stanford MBA CLASS OF 2007
Women 32%
International (includes Permanent Residents) 39%
U.S. Minority 25%
They left out caucasian. Anyone want to know why they left that out?
Look at those #s and take a guess.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
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...I can see a thread in the near future...by Helladumb...the title says "I got rejected from law school because of liberals and immigrants....
...I can see a thread in the near future...by Helladumb...the title says "I got rejected from law school because of liberals and immigrants....
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There's no affirmative action any more, people are accepted and rejected based on qualifications. And there is a lot of luck involved, because as you pointed out, so many people apply for so few slots. I know that whites are not discriminated against when applying to colleges. In fact, I don't know a single white person who has been rejected from a school they wanted to go to.
The fact that you don't have to give any race on any application is testament to the fact that you are just paranoid about this. If they were going to discriminate, don't you think they'd require the race box be checked?
Edit: that stat for Stanford does surprise me a little bit.
The fact that you don't have to give any race on any application is testament to the fact that you are just paranoid about this. If they were going to discriminate, don't you think they'd require the race box be checked?
Edit: that stat for Stanford does surprise me a little bit.
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I'm done arguing this for today though. I appreciate that you feel discriminated against, and I'm sorry you feel that way. My advice is to be good enough where you're not 'on the bubble' to get in and it won't matter.
Besides, I don't like any of the stats you or I can find on undergrads because they include all the touchy-feely subjects...and I've already shown you that in the most rigerous fields of graduate study, whites are not underrepresented. Again except for maybe law...
Besides, I don't like any of the stats you or I can find on undergrads because they include all the touchy-feely subjects...and I've already shown you that in the most rigerous fields of graduate study, whites are not underrepresented. Again except for maybe law...
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If you're going to try to stand up for anyone's rights...how about you look at women in all the stats you cited and posted...last I checked men:women is about 50:50 in the world...