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Switzerland has a culture, you're just unaware of it -- try going there sometime.
i have. i would tend to disagree.
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Originally Posted by irrational x
i have. i would tend to disagree.
For some strange reason I'm doubting you've been there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Switzerland



If Switzerland suffers from anything, it's from the fact that it derives its culture from too many sources. It has nothing to do with Socialism and everything to do with the region the country is in, as evidenced by the fact that the country has been around since the 13th century and hasn't had its current form of government (a direct democracy, btw -- not "socialism") for more than half a century.

Just because you haven't heard of a "Swiss restaurant" doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of Swiss chocolate (Toblerone is incredibly popular internationally)? Swiss watches? Swiss army knives? Swiss banking system?

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Originally Posted by irrational x
but think of how much money we will save if we don't have to buy ambulances capable of carrying 800lb land manatees. there are plenty of legitimate health issues in perfectly healthy people... addressing those health issues SHOULD DEFINITELY be a priority.

what i do not accept is the idea that we must lower the bar so far in order to help a few who REFUSE to help themselves. There are perfectly good reasons, for example, for being confined to a wheelchair. Obesity BY CHOICE is not one of them, yet our taxes still pay for their Rascal scooters.

see my point?
ill be damned if you talk **** on swiss miss and get away with it



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Originally Posted by saqwarrior

Just because you haven't heard of a "Swiss restaurant" doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of Swiss chocolate (Toblerone is incredibly popular internationally)? Swiss watches? Swiss army knives? Swiss banking system?
... and don't forget Swiss cheese
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ill be damned if you talk **** on swiss miss and get away with it



they have skiing and chocolate
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
If Switzerland suffers from anything, it's from the fact that it derives its culture from too many sources. It has nothing to do with Socialism and everything to do with the region the country is in.
its seems what you fail to understand is that socialist philosophy and its practical application are much different. your proving my point for me, "from to many sources" = the culture has been homogenized. Now, while socialism as an economic system doesn't force this in any way, it does create an environment that is conducive to the degradation of individuality.

Originally Posted by saqwarrior
Just because you haven't heard of a "Swiss restaurant" doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of Swiss chocolate (Toblerone is incredibly popular internationally)? Swiss watches? Swiss army knives? Swiss banking system?
seriously your taking this way to far. it started as a joke. but really, swatches? your defending the swiss culture with swatches and toberlones? commercial exports != culture.

that's like saying Chinese culture consists of plastic and lead paint.

in fact the only reason i brought this up is because i wrote a paper back in the day about how Switzerland is like Tofu (a tasteless, colorless, food item that is neither delicious nor disgusting.)

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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
haha good catch.

My point remains the same though.

Bull****. Sweden has a LONG and PROUD culture.




Ever hear of Vikings?



Soilwork. Amazing band. Platinum artists. Swedish.



In Flames. Another multi-national, multi-platinum artist.

Sweden has a great culture and my Norse ancestry is outraged at your statement!


VIKING RAAAAAGE!!
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Originally Posted by irrational x
its seems what you fail to understand is that socialist philosophy and its practical application are much different.
Really?

In my very first reply to you:

Remember: the actual political philosophy is rarely what is implemented in a country. No European country is actually socialist, and no communist nation has ever been actually communist, and the United States is not a free market, nor is it a capitalist system.
Originally Posted by irrational x
your proving my point for me, "from to many sources" = the culture has been homogenized. Now, while socialism as an economic system doesn't force this in any way, it does create an environment that is conducive to the degradation of individuality.
What you said was:

socialism aims to homogenize a society. just look at the swiss, they have no culture.
I take that statement as you saying that "homogenization = no culture," which means that you said that "socialism aims to remove culture," which I disagree with.

As to whether it degrades individuality or not, that depends on what kind of socialism you're talking about, and how you define individuality.

Originally Posted by irrational x
seriously your taking this way to far. it started as a joke. but really, swatches? your defending the swiss culture with swatches and toberlones? commercial exports != culture.

that's like saying Chinese culture consists of plastic and lead paint.
Swiss watches are legendary timepieces, world-renowned for their accuracy and dependability. Swiss chocolate is equally famous for its rich flavor and high quality, and the Swiss banking system is so well-known for its security, privacy and protection of customer assets that it has become almost synonymous with international banking. I only cited these "exports" because I figured they would be the ones you would likely be the most familiar with. If you need further examples of the culture of Switzerland, I suggest not taking my word for it and reading the link I copied that goes into detail about the culture of Switzerland.

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