The Aryan Olsen Twins?
10-23-2005 | 12:55 PM
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The Aryan Olsen Twins?
Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.
Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.
"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."
Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the **** swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.
"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."
Teaching Hate
Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to **** Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."
"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.
On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.
"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."
Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.
Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.
"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."
Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.
But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.
"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."
A Taste for Hate
Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.
One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."
"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping ******."
Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."
Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.
"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."
A Place to Call Home
Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.
Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.
The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.
After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.
Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.
But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.
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They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.
Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.
"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."
Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the **** swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.
"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."
Teaching Hate
Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to **** Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."
"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.
On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.
"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."
Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.
Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.
"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."
Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.
But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.
"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."
A Taste for Hate
Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.
One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."
"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping ******."
Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."
Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.
"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."
A Place to Call Home
Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.
Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.
The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.
After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.
Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.
But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.
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10-23-2005 | 02:39 PM
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Ahahahah non-whites are the biggest racists in the world... and you all know what I'm talking about. You know what your families taugh you... maybe some actually avoided some of the ignorance that feeds racism, such as the concept that most whites are racists!
"Whites" are not the largest "race" on the plantet, but the ONLY race that promotes equality and policies that give other races an unfair advantage over white individuals.
How many whites have lost dreams and earned positions in the name of fairness? Nobody knows, but it is a lot.
Sure, you can find thousands of so-called "white racists," and heck, even those nasty blue-eyed nationalistic ones! Find another race that makes such sacrifices and I'll STFU.
I have first hand experience with many races who want to hand down their culture to their children and grandchildren, and many think that inter-racial marriage will dilute their culture and traditions (they are right, no?). Why aren't they call racists when whites doing the same are called pro-aryan *****?
How do you like them apples?
"Whites" are not the largest "race" on the plantet, but the ONLY race that promotes equality and policies that give other races an unfair advantage over white individuals.
How many whites have lost dreams and earned positions in the name of fairness? Nobody knows, but it is a lot.
Sure, you can find thousands of so-called "white racists," and heck, even those nasty blue-eyed nationalistic ones! Find another race that makes such sacrifices and I'll STFU.
I have first hand experience with many races who want to hand down their culture to their children and grandchildren, and many think that inter-racial marriage will dilute their culture and traditions (they are right, no?). Why aren't they call racists when whites doing the same are called pro-aryan *****?
How do you like them apples?
10-23-2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Ahahahah non-whites are the biggest racists in the world... and you all know what I'm talking about. You know what your families taugh you... maybe some actually avoided some of the ignorance that feeds racism, such as the concept that most whites are racists!
"Whites" are not the largest "race" on the plantet, but the ONLY race that promotes equality and policies that give other races an unfair advantage over white individuals.
How many whites have lost dreams and earned positions in the name of fairness? Nobody knows, but it is a lot.
Sure, you can find thousands of so-called "white racists," and heck, even those nasty blue-eyed nationalistic ones! Find another race that makes such sacrifices and I'll STFU.
I have first hand experience with many races who want to hand down their culture to their children and grandchildren, and many think that inter-racial marriage will dilute their culture and traditions (they are right, no?). Why aren't they call racists when whites doing the same are called pro-aryan *****?
How do you like them apples?
"Whites" are not the largest "race" on the plantet, but the ONLY race that promotes equality and policies that give other races an unfair advantage over white individuals.
How many whites have lost dreams and earned positions in the name of fairness? Nobody knows, but it is a lot.
Sure, you can find thousands of so-called "white racists," and heck, even those nasty blue-eyed nationalistic ones! Find another race that makes such sacrifices and I'll STFU.
I have first hand experience with many races who want to hand down their culture to their children and grandchildren, and many think that inter-racial marriage will dilute their culture and traditions (they are right, no?). Why aren't they call racists when whites doing the same are called pro-aryan *****?
How do you like them apples?
if i had the chance to remove people such as you from society and it be completely legal in the eyes of the law i would with out hesitation.
Your veiled racisim in the above post pisses me off to no end, those of other cultures who do look down upon interracial marriage are just as racist and retarded as you. Such idiocy should be removed from
sometimes i swear the only way to erase hate is to hate it beyond the limits of its orginal intent... (e.g. hate the haters more then they hate the hated)
10-23-2005 | 04:27 PM
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Dude, Helladumb's wife is of a completely different race and so is mine. He actually had a lot of good points in the paragraph you quoted. If you'd only quit being a closed minded ***** you'd realize it.
Although I don't have actual figures, the amount of crap white people push in attempt to apologize for the last 200yrs says something. I just finished hiring 14 employees for a measly restaurant. And although we hired mostly younger women, we made absolutely sure and were encouraged to hire a few young women minorities before even considering males. We had no problem doing it and there's really nothing to making sandwiches, cleaning dishes and busing. But if it's something that needs to be considered at the minimum wage level then the amount of lost positions at the corporate level must be astronomical.
We haven't even scratched the surface on how we've been apologizing to the Native Americans for what a fraction of our ancestors have done. Hell, have our ancestors within the last 50years of this countries existence are from another country. They get tax breaks and many other benefits through sovereignty that you wouldn't believe. 99% of Native American tribes don't even use trout lines to catch their unlimited amounts of Salmon like they used to do. They use shopping carts, huge industrial nets and buckets. It's sickening. And all for what? Because my ancestors were still in Wales while a few savages shot their buffalo and slept with their women over 100yrs ago? Honestly, how upset is the head guy at ThunderValley when he pulls up in his Ferrari? He probably couldn't even hold a conversation regarding the history of his tribe with a area historian of a different race.
It's just a series of asinine concepts especially since the begging of modern times. The last firehose to be pointed at a black person decades ago wasn't even close to California yet we tend to push the bull**** the most. If all the liberals had their way in Germany they'd donate their life savings to Poland. It's stupid.
Although I don't have actual figures, the amount of crap white people push in attempt to apologize for the last 200yrs says something. I just finished hiring 14 employees for a measly restaurant. And although we hired mostly younger women, we made absolutely sure and were encouraged to hire a few young women minorities before even considering males. We had no problem doing it and there's really nothing to making sandwiches, cleaning dishes and busing. But if it's something that needs to be considered at the minimum wage level then the amount of lost positions at the corporate level must be astronomical.
We haven't even scratched the surface on how we've been apologizing to the Native Americans for what a fraction of our ancestors have done. Hell, have our ancestors within the last 50years of this countries existence are from another country. They get tax breaks and many other benefits through sovereignty that you wouldn't believe. 99% of Native American tribes don't even use trout lines to catch their unlimited amounts of Salmon like they used to do. They use shopping carts, huge industrial nets and buckets. It's sickening. And all for what? Because my ancestors were still in Wales while a few savages shot their buffalo and slept with their women over 100yrs ago? Honestly, how upset is the head guy at ThunderValley when he pulls up in his Ferrari? He probably couldn't even hold a conversation regarding the history of his tribe with a area historian of a different race.
It's just a series of asinine concepts especially since the begging of modern times. The last firehose to be pointed at a black person decades ago wasn't even close to California yet we tend to push the bull**** the most. If all the liberals had their way in Germany they'd donate their life savings to Poland. It's stupid.
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10-23-2005 | 04:43 PM
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i dont give a **** if he is half white half black.. my point still ****ing stands...
that sort of ignorance no matter where it comes from or who it comes from needs to be eradicated before the human race can realize the pie in the sky dream of peace.
Something i dont think we are to capable of to be honest.
Again show me how i am being closed minded... from where i am standing it seems that a bigot is critizing other bigots of a different ethnicity about being bigoted.
just my take on it the whole pot and kettle thing.
that sort of ignorance no matter where it comes from or who it comes from needs to be eradicated before the human race can realize the pie in the sky dream of peace.
Something i dont think we are to capable of to be honest.
Again show me how i am being closed minded... from where i am standing it seems that a bigot is critizing other bigots of a different ethnicity about being bigoted.
just my take on it the whole pot and kettle thing.
10-23-2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
is critizing other bigots of a different ethnicity about being bigoted.
10-23-2005 | 05:24 PM
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*sigh*
some people just will never get it...
His point is bigoted, his post is bigoted, he is a bigot. A bigot that takes it upon himself to call other bigots (which only shows that he is a hypocritical bigot). This is not something to celebrate or support, it is something that should be destroyed. Plain and simple, that self centered way of thought is the same foolish and demented thinking that continues various cycles of bigotry, hatred, and violence around us today.
Who gives a **** if they are white, black, green, or yellow. If they act in a bigoted manner or in a racist way they are just that. Nothing else nothing more PLAIN AND ****ING SIMPLE
The face that douchebag cant see past his own idiocy and bigotry is what amuses me so much.
So two cheers to the ****wits among us
some people just will never get it...
His point is bigoted, his post is bigoted, he is a bigot. A bigot that takes it upon himself to call other bigots (which only shows that he is a hypocritical bigot). This is not something to celebrate or support, it is something that should be destroyed. Plain and simple, that self centered way of thought is the same foolish and demented thinking that continues various cycles of bigotry, hatred, and violence around us today.
Who gives a **** if they are white, black, green, or yellow. If they act in a bigoted manner or in a racist way they are just that. Nothing else nothing more PLAIN AND ****ING SIMPLE
The face that douchebag cant see past his own idiocy and bigotry is what amuses me so much.
So two cheers to the ****wits among us
10-23-2005 | 05:33 PM
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and salty
cry me a ****ing white river of ****ing tears already...
I have no tolerance for those who cry and dont do ****. if that is the way you feel maybe you and your ****wit buddy should join a white nationalist movement so my buddies at the fahbee can bug your **** up.
just a thought, i mean seeing how everything you two have said so far in this thread could be pulled from one of their propaganda pamphlets and all..
I appolgize for nothing people in the past have done, simply because IT WASNT ME. If you do so that is your own ****ing bad. IF i was a buisness owner i would only HIRE THOSE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS with out respect to race, ethnicity, sexual preference, etc. THose things dont matter one ****ing bit to me nor should they towards my bottom ****ing line. It is about PRODUCTIVITY, those who would make me the most money in the long run would be the ones i would hire.
i am sorry that you have a case of "white boi oh so sowwy", cause i sure as hell dont...
btw nice after the fact edit
cry me a ****ing white river of ****ing tears already...
I have no tolerance for those who cry and dont do ****. if that is the way you feel maybe you and your ****wit buddy should join a white nationalist movement so my buddies at the fahbee can bug your **** up.
just a thought, i mean seeing how everything you two have said so far in this thread could be pulled from one of their propaganda pamphlets and all..
I appolgize for nothing people in the past have done, simply because IT WASNT ME. If you do so that is your own ****ing bad. IF i was a buisness owner i would only HIRE THOSE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS with out respect to race, ethnicity, sexual preference, etc. THose things dont matter one ****ing bit to me nor should they towards my bottom ****ing line. It is about PRODUCTIVITY, those who would make me the most money in the long run would be the ones i would hire.
i am sorry that you have a case of "white boi oh so sowwy", cause i sure as hell dont...
btw nice after the fact edit
10-23-2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Why aren't they call racists when whites doing the same are called pro-aryan *****?
How do you like them apples?
How do you like them apples?
Edit: responding jeapordizes my integrity
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10-23-2005 | 11:56 PM
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But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.
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