tein flex or cusco zero2r?
01-02-2004, 11:33 PM
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tein flex or tein ra or cusco zero2r?
I'm planning on getting coilovers sor my 2004 STi. I'm just wondering how is the ride and handling of the car after it has been installed with the cusco zero2r? Also are they any good?
Hows the ride and handling of the tein flex and the RA? How much did you guys pay for either one?
Thanks
also does both come with everything for me to install it?
Hows the ride and handling of the tein flex and the RA? How much did you guys pay for either one?
Thanks
also does both come with everything for me to install it?
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01-02-2004, 11:59 PM
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Are they "any" good? 
Yes, they are VERY good.
For ride quality, I would consider Zero-2's not the R's. The R 's are for those who don't care about the ride quality. Not that it will be bad, but just Zero-2's will give you a much nicer ride quality to its design.
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Many people jump on 2R's simply becuase they are "more expensive" and "higher on the product line ladder". Yes they are, but very few people actually know the differences.
Of course, the 2R's main difference from the 2's is the fact that they are inverted. To think that inverted is better is not correct. There are more differences than that.
The 2's are regular twin-tube shock absorbers.
The 2R's are inverted mono-tube shock absorbers.
Twin tube shock absorbers provide much better ride quality with the same valving specs as the mono-tube. But, mono-tube can take a lot more abuse than the twin-tube. And, inverted shock absorbers reduce unsprung weight, put no stress on the shaft and have few other benefits. However, you cannot "flip" the twin-tube shock absorber. Thats by its design. Thats why, if you take a non-inverted twin-tube shock absorber, flip it upside down and then press on it, it won't come back out. Try it. It is pretty interesting. That has to do with its design, which I am not going into right now, unless you ask me to.
If you guys find this interesting, I will gladly go into more details.
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If you want high performance coilovers that will have awesome ride quality, go with Zero-2's.
If you want ultra high performance coilovers that have good ride quality and will "abuse" your car on the track, go with Zero-2R's.
That's just my .02 cents on this matter.
I would definetely prefer either 2 or 2R's over TEINS.
Yes, they are VERY good.
For ride quality, I would consider Zero-2's not the R's. The R 's are for those who don't care about the ride quality. Not that it will be bad, but just Zero-2's will give you a much nicer ride quality to its design.
---
Many people jump on 2R's simply becuase they are "more expensive" and "higher on the product line ladder". Yes they are, but very few people actually know the differences.
Of course, the 2R's main difference from the 2's is the fact that they are inverted. To think that inverted is better is not correct. There are more differences than that.
The 2's are regular twin-tube shock absorbers.
The 2R's are inverted mono-tube shock absorbers.
Twin tube shock absorbers provide much better ride quality with the same valving specs as the mono-tube. But, mono-tube can take a lot more abuse than the twin-tube. And, inverted shock absorbers reduce unsprung weight, put no stress on the shaft and have few other benefits. However, you cannot "flip" the twin-tube shock absorber. Thats by its design. Thats why, if you take a non-inverted twin-tube shock absorber, flip it upside down and then press on it, it won't come back out.
Try it. It is pretty interesting. That has to do with its design, which I am not going into right now, unless you ask me to. If you guys find this interesting, I will gladly go into more details.
---
If you want high performance coilovers that will have awesome ride quality, go with Zero-2's.
If you want ultra high performance coilovers that have good ride quality and will "abuse" your car on the track, go with Zero-2R's.
That's just my .02 cents on this matter.
I would definetely prefer either 2 or 2R's over TEINS.
01-03-2004, 03:49 AM
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Imprezer, what would you recommend if i wanted to be able to take the car to the track once or twice a month? zero 1s? or 2s? And why would you prefer cusco over teins? Price wise wouldnt the Tein flex be "better" then cusco zero 1s?
01-03-2004, 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Imprezer
If you guys find this interesting, I will gladly go into more details.
If you guys find this interesting, I will gladly go into more details.
01-03-2004, 09:18 AM
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Ok, I will get all technical. Let me get to work first.
I would choose Zero-2's over Zero-1's. Zero-2's have 5 way adjustable shock, while the Zero-1's are "preset" on setting #3. I like being able to set the shock, based on the road condition and tires I am using.
Why do I choose CUSCO over TEIN? Same reason I would choose Subaru over Kia. Sony vs. Radio Shack. The quality is just not the same. Also, over very important factor. The way TEINS shock adjustment works vs. CUSCO. TEIN uses a "needle valve". That is why TEINs are like 134 way adjustable, but the truth is, there is on different between setting #112 and setting #70. Also, you can easialy "oversping" the adjustment valve and ruin the shock.
TEIN does make good coilovers but those are a lot more expensive than the FLEX's.
I would choose Zero-2's over Zero-1's. Zero-2's have 5 way adjustable shock, while the Zero-1's are "preset" on setting #3. I like being able to set the shock, based on the road condition and tires I am using.
Why do I choose CUSCO over TEIN? Same reason I would choose Subaru over Kia. Sony vs. Radio Shack.
The quality is just not the same. Also, over very important factor. The way TEINS shock adjustment works vs. CUSCO. TEIN uses a "needle valve". That is why TEINs are like 134 way adjustable, but the truth is, there is on different between setting #112 and setting #70. Also, you can easialy "oversping" the adjustment valve and ruin the shock.TEIN does make good coilovers but those are a lot more expensive than the FLEX's.
01-05-2004, 11:14 PM
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I have tein flex's too
..clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk
I want new coilovers that don't clunk
..clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk clunk
I want new coilovers that don't clunk
01-05-2004, 11:31 PM
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hm.. i have the flex's and for wut i use 'em for, i find them much better than just springs...
ride's decent on the road, and tracks quite well...
ride's decent on the road, and tracks quite well...
01-07-2004, 06:27 PM
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my zero2r's came with everything. my only gripe is that adjustment is on the bottom (which makes for getting dirty while waiting for your next autox run along with using a mirror). to get around this, i just take off my rear view mirror and use it to look under. the clicks are well defined, but use a mirror just to make sure.
soft setting is soft enough to keep the GF from complaining. actually, i wouldn't mind the springrates going up just a touch, it just seems that way. that was with aftermarket sways too back on my wagon. the weight may have made it feel soft. i will try them on my sti, but don't want to leave stock just yet.
note: it will keep clicking past the highest and lowest setting, so don't expect to hit an end to know what setting you are at.
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soft setting is soft enough to keep the GF from complaining. actually, i wouldn't mind the springrates going up just a touch, it just seems that way. that was with aftermarket sways too back on my wagon. the weight may have made it feel soft. i will try them on my sti, but don't want to leave stock just yet.
note: it will keep clicking past the highest and lowest setting, so don't expect to hit an end to know what setting you are at.
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01-08-2004, 10:24 AM
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alignment adjusting mounts? if you mean camber plates yes.....for the front. the rear is just a non-adj pillowball mount.
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Originally posted by Imprezer
Ok, I will get all technical. Let me get to work first.
I would choose Zero-2's over Zero-1's. Zero-2's have 5 way adjustable shock, while the Zero-1's are "preset" on setting #3. I like being able to set the shock, based on the road condition and tires I am using.
Why do I choose CUSCO over TEIN? Same reason I would choose Subaru over Kia. Sony vs. Radio Shack. The quality is just not the same. Also, over very important factor. The way TEINS shock adjustment works vs. CUSCO. TEIN uses a "needle valve". That is why TEINs are like 134 way adjustable, but the truth is, there is on different between setting #112 and setting #70. Also, you can easialy "oversping" the adjustment valve and ruin the shock.
TEIN does make good coilovers but those are a lot more expensive than the FLEX's.
Ok, I will get all technical. Let me get to work first.
I would choose Zero-2's over Zero-1's. Zero-2's have 5 way adjustable shock, while the Zero-1's are "preset" on setting #3. I like being able to set the shock, based on the road condition and tires I am using.
Why do I choose CUSCO over TEIN? Same reason I would choose Subaru over Kia. Sony vs. Radio Shack.
The quality is just not the same. Also, over very important factor. The way TEINS shock adjustment works vs. CUSCO. TEIN uses a "needle valve". That is why TEINs are like 134 way adjustable, but the truth is, there is on different between setting #112 and setting #70. Also, you can easialy "oversping" the adjustment valve and ruin the shock.TEIN does make good coilovers but those are a lot more expensive than the FLEX's.
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