Misfire errors and denial of warranty
04-05-2004, 02:30 PM
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Misfire errors and denial of warranty
Hey guys, this is my first post but I've been a reader of the forum for about 2 years now. And now it's my turn to make a complaint about the warranty and how much it sucks. I have a 2002 WRX with minor mods, CAI, turbo back exhaust, and turbo timer. I took it to the dealer for a routine checkup and 3 misfire errors had came up. When going into more detail they have told me that the errors are caused by a piston problem and is not covered by my warranty. I was always under the impression that the warranty would cover any problem that was not caused by a direct mod or change in the engine. Just curious to see what you guys think about this, and how I should go about this. Thanks alot guys.
04-08-2004, 05:52 AM
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technically speaking "anything" engine related mods can void your warranty on your engine. i may be completely wrong, but thats the way i've always seen it. the funny thing is i work @ a subaru dealer and i've never seen someone with a situation similar 2 yours and have warranty work granted. if u look at it in lamans terms when a company offers warrantie on their cars-its for the car as its equipped. . . not as the owners sees fit(in terms of aftermarket parts) grant it susp will not void engine warranty, but in a sense u kinda crossed a "gray" area. your best bet is to get all your info and try an attourney for more clarification
04-09-2004, 05:36 PM
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I would take your CAI off ( and throw it in the garbage) and take off whatever else you can and replace them with your stock stuff and take it to a different dealer. I had to go to 2 different dealers to get my clutch replaced, the first one *****ed because I had an uppipe and a TBE at that time.
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04-09-2004, 07:08 PM
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umm, well, they say the turbo timer voids any warranty for sure, not sure why though. I don't see why exhaust would cause a "piston problem" and it's doubtful intake would either.
In CA the law does state that the mod has to be DIRECTLY related to the failure, and the burden of proof is on the dealer. Problem is that it's a pain in the *** to get it fixed once they deny you. You might contact a lawyer.
In CA the law does state that the mod has to be DIRECTLY related to the failure, and the burden of proof is on the dealer. Problem is that it's a pain in the *** to get it fixed once they deny you. You might contact a lawyer.
04-10-2004, 11:27 PM
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Yeah it seems thats what I may have to do. I've been in contact with the manufacturers of my exhaust and intake and both are willing to write e-mails or call subaru directly to back my side. I also spoke to a lawyer about the situtation and he said to goto court if they won't do things the way I see fit. But hopefully SoA will change their minds when I call them on Monday with the intent to bring them to court.
04-11-2004, 07:04 PM
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"Yeah it seems thats what I may have to do. I've been in contact with the manufacturers of my exhaust and intake and both are willing to write e-mails or call subaru directly to back my side. I also spoke to a lawyer about the situtation and he said to goto court if they won't do things the way I see fit. But hopefully SoA will change their minds when I call them on Monday with the intent to bring them to court."
eMail from the part sellers will do no good.
Lawyers always say go to court. He would have told you to go to court if you missed flossing and had a cavity.
A poorly designed or installed exhaust can, in fact, raise combustion chamber temperatures (among other things). The seller of the exhaust will, of course, say theirs is pure genius.
Subaru designed and built an engine and they will fix it if it breaks. If you build one, be prepared to do the same.
Take the stuff off, throw it away, and go to another dealer.
Or take some engine repair classes.
eMail from the part sellers will do no good.
Lawyers always say go to court. He would have told you to go to court if you missed flossing and had a cavity.
A poorly designed or installed exhaust can, in fact, raise combustion chamber temperatures (among other things). The seller of the exhaust will, of course, say theirs is pure genius.
Subaru designed and built an engine and they will fix it if it breaks. If you build one, be prepared to do the same.
Take the stuff off, throw it away, and go to another dealer.
Or take some engine repair classes.
04-11-2004, 08:10 PM
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bottom line(IMO) a warranty is granted from a manufacturer based solely on the fact that the car was not abused...or anything else not installed on the car at the time of manufacture. if u look at this way: would you pay for someones repairs knowing they put in "performance enhancing" equipment?(which was not installed at time of manufacture) a warranty is basically an insurance policy. . . like any insurance policy there are certain guidelines that they set.
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Originally posted by gdogg
bottom line(IMO) a warranty is granted from a manufacturer based solely on the fact that the car was not abused...or anything else not installed on the car at the time of manufacture. if u look at this way: would you pay for someones repairs knowing they put in "performance enhancing" equipment?(which was not installed at time of manufacture) a warranty is basically an insurance policy. . . like any insurance policy there are certain guidelines that they set.
bottom line(IMO) a warranty is granted from a manufacturer based solely on the fact that the car was not abused...or anything else not installed on the car at the time of manufacture. if u look at this way: would you pay for someones repairs knowing they put in "performance enhancing" equipment?(which was not installed at time of manufacture) a warranty is basically an insurance policy. . . like any insurance policy there are certain guidelines that they set.
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