Wanting to know the truth (about the boxer sound)
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Properly designed headers (and that doesn't necessiarly mean equal-length) can increase performance with the right tuning, but in most cases it doesn't do much.
Equal length headers do change that subaru sound to be a bit more Honda-ish. It loses that boxer-growl and gets that inline-4 whine.
Equal length headers do change that subaru sound to be a bit more Honda-ish. It loses that boxer-growl and gets that inline-4 whine.
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Originally Posted by stiver6
I am getting a WRX and i talk to somepeople and they said that if you get equal length headers the the subie sounds goes away and they dont do anything for the horsepower is that right. Please somebody tell me the truth.
If that is ture then yest equal lenght headers will lessen the boxter sound.
I dont believe it is true tho because front wheel drive v6 cars dont sound like boxters..
your gains.
again from what i have been told so this could be off.
I was always told the longer your runners the quicker your turbo will spool.
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The sound is a function of the engine, not necessiarly the headers. The boxer engine has a very unique sound, which can be helped or hurt by the headers. The equal length headers can make a boxer sound like an inline or a v, but putting unequal length headers on an inline or a v motor will not make it sound like a boxer.
Its really two parts, both the engine layout and the headers.
Its really two parts, both the engine layout and the headers.
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I've heard a Subie with equal length headers and it doesn't have that boxer beat to it but it does sound mean, unlike Hondas. It roars like a rally car Subies have a lower, deeper exhaust note than Hondas.
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The BOXER BEAT is caused by the Firing order of the cylinders and the flat-4 orientation... Thats why you get that sound... Equal length headers will not ELIMINATE the sound, but make it much less apparent...
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I agree. Think about the sound of the current crop of boxer engines like the old air-cooled VWs and the Porsche 911 variants (both air and water-cooled), neither of which sound like conventional inline fours or V-6s, respectively, equal length header primaries or not.
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stupid, but i just have to know!
exactly why does the boxer sound like it does? isnt the firing order 1-3-2-4, with 1 and 3 being the pass. bank, and 2 and 4 being the drivers side bank? how many degrees apart are the crank journals? (not sure if thats the correct terminology for the part where the crank meets the con. rod.)
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I disagee. I have used over 6 different headers on my car and none of them made my WRX sound like a Honda. Afterall, have any of you ever heard the WRC car? Whoever says it sounds like a Honda have never heard a true equal length headered WRX.
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Alex certainly isn't disagreeing with me, I said "-ish," not "exactly".
I've heard some equal length headers that sound great (Cobb, IIRC) and some that I don't like at all. Maybe not Honda-ish, but certainly not as good as the stock headers, at least in my opinion.
I've heard some equal length headers that sound great (Cobb, IIRC) and some that I don't like at all. Maybe not Honda-ish, but certainly not as good as the stock headers, at least in my opinion.
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