Handbrake turns in a Subaru Legacy
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i am curious as to why it would mess your diffs so bad. i know a considerable amount about the suspension, drive components on the cars, and can not really see how this would hurt your awd. if someone has a resonable explanation i would love to hear it.
as far as an auto, its not really any different EXCEPT for how the awd system works. autos have what is called the awd solenoid which is located in the back of the tranny. it is a com. controlled mechanism that engages the gear to the rear drive shaft. when these solenoids go bad they cause the system to bind (causes a weird vibration and the whole car shakes when you turn a corner, or take hard enough activate the awd). i have seen the teeth on some worn almost all the way through. this is one reason to keep your tires all the same size, and rotate every other oil service. anyway sorry for the essay on awd, just felt like typing.
-PJ
as far as an auto, its not really any different EXCEPT for how the awd system works. autos have what is called the awd solenoid which is located in the back of the tranny. it is a com. controlled mechanism that engages the gear to the rear drive shaft. when these solenoids go bad they cause the system to bind (causes a weird vibration and the whole car shakes when you turn a corner, or take hard enough activate the awd). i have seen the teeth on some worn almost all the way through. this is one reason to keep your tires all the same size, and rotate every other oil service. anyway sorry for the essay on awd, just felt like typing.
-PJ
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Originally posted by X1_SRT
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as far as an auto, its not really any different EXCEPT for how the awd system works. autos have what is called the awd solenoid which is located in the back of the tranny. it is a com. controlled mechanism that engages the gear to the rear drive shaft. when these solenoids go bad they cause the system to bind (causes a weird vibration and the whole car shakes when you turn a corner, or take hard enough activate the awd). i have seen the teeth on some worn almost all the way through. this is one reason to keep your tires all the same size, and rotate every other oil service. anyway sorry for the essay on awd, just felt like typing.
-PJ
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as far as an auto, its not really any different EXCEPT for how the awd system works. autos have what is called the awd solenoid which is located in the back of the tranny. it is a com. controlled mechanism that engages the gear to the rear drive shaft. when these solenoids go bad they cause the system to bind (causes a weird vibration and the whole car shakes when you turn a corner, or take hard enough activate the awd). i have seen the teeth on some worn almost all the way through. this is one reason to keep your tires all the same size, and rotate every other oil service. anyway sorry for the essay on awd, just felt like typing.
-PJ
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Originally posted by NleahciM
Well - it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver.
Well - it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver.
"Personally I dont see why cops think its such a big deal, I can get the car into the other lane facing the right way"
british guy you get dumber every day.
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Originally posted by Billy Baru
I didn't know about the solenoid on the auto's, but if you want to put that much faith in the action of those solenoids go ahead. I am refering to the manual's where when the E-brake is pulled and your still in gear. The axels are being driven but the back axels are also being stopped at the same time making excessive strain on the rear/ center diff
I didn't know about the solenoid on the auto's, but if you want to put that much faith in the action of those solenoids go ahead. I am refering to the manual's where when the E-brake is pulled and your still in gear. The axels are being driven but the back axels are also being stopped at the same time making excessive strain on the rear/ center diff
-PJ
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Originally posted by the sucker king
what the hell, are you a spy or something?
what the hell, are you a spy or something?
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Even without the car in neutral or the clutch disengaged, the gears in the differentials will still be moving and still be effected if you suddenly stop the rear tires and the front wheels keep moving, especially the rear differentials. There is a reason why the Rally cars have specially designed emergency brakes that compensate for these problems...
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My God. This is, by far, the dumbest post I have read in a while.
"it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver."
When is it useful to pull the e-brake on a turn? Do you wanna be a drift king on your local streets?
"it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver."
When is it useful to pull the e-brake on a turn? Do you wanna be a drift king on your local streets?
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Originally posted by InfamousDX
My God. This is, by far, the dumbest post I have read in a while.
"it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver."
When is it useful to pull the e-brake on a turn? Do you wanna be a drift king on your local streets?
My God. This is, by far, the dumbest post I have read in a while.
"it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver."
When is it useful to pull the e-brake on a turn? Do you wanna be a drift king on your local streets?
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Originally posted by NleahciM
Well - it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver. So, does anyone know if it is possible to execute a handbrake turn in a legacy with a automatic transmission? Thanks!
Well - it seems like there are a thousand times every time I go out driving at night that this would be a very useful maneuver. So, does anyone know if it is possible to execute a handbrake turn in a legacy with a automatic transmission? Thanks!
Personally, I've never tried the maneuver myself. I autox, and even on the tightest course, it's completely unnecessary, but then, at the time, I was in a RWD car. If you're curious about what happens when performing the maneuver, get GT3, or if you don't have a PS2, Try Need For Speed Porche Unleashed, and play around with it ... In NFS there were a couple of the 'factory driver' courses that required it. There was one CTF type deal where you had to take a 90deg, and tack a cone on the way around ... I used it to kick the back-end out a bit to get the cone.
I don't recommend doing it in the real world, unless, like everyone else said you're in a wet or snow-covered parking lot. I'd more more worried about shredding my bearings than my diff's though..
#27
E-brake turns will damage your drivetrain no matter what type of transmission you have. The AWD system automatically transfers power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip. It does this by sensing the speed of each wheel. If the rear wheels stop spinning when you pull the e-brake, the car will think the front wheels are spinning with little or no traction and will try to transfer power to the rear. When the power has nowhere to go, your center diff (or clutch pack on an auto) will absorb all that torque and go KABOOM! You cannot do e-brake turns in a Subaru without causing damage. Sure, I know some guys have done it plenty of times and claim they have no problems. Ask them again in 50,000 miles if their center or rear diffs have been replaced yet and how much it cost for a few 2-second thrill rides.
Oh, and there is no real use for e-brake turns on public roads unless you are involved in law enforcement. Period.
End rant.
Oh, and there is no real use for e-brake turns on public roads unless you are involved in law enforcement. Period.
End rant.
#28
Stock center diff is weak enough, it will stress the driverain but it won't break it.
Even if you have a aftermarket strong diff, it will be fine.
In that case, the front tires will lock as well (car will skid) and the stress escape from there.
Haven't heard anybody breaking diff from pulling e-brake in autocross or rally.
Not sure how it works with auto though...
Even if you have a aftermarket strong diff, it will be fine.
In that case, the front tires will lock as well (car will skid) and the stress escape from there.
Haven't heard anybody breaking diff from pulling e-brake in autocross or rally.
Not sure how it works with auto though...
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