2008 Subaru Impreza
#61
Originally Posted by w1ngzer0
No, not all cars are getting heavier. Its the car company trying to be cheap with their engineering. Here is a great example of good engineering. Nissan is pulling the same crap with their new GTR.
Current corvette:
LS2
400 hp/400 tq
six spd tranny
18city/28hwy mpg
and the weight you ask? 3,179 lbs. Yes, there are some problems. But, all cars have at least 1 recall problem.
From just the stats, it looks like a good car to me.
Current corvette:
LS2
400 hp/400 tq
six spd tranny
18city/28hwy mpg
and the weight you ask? 3,179 lbs. Yes, there are some problems. But, all cars have at least 1 recall problem.
From just the stats, it looks like a good car to me.
*exaggeration*
#62
Originally Posted by w1ngzer0
No, not all cars are getting heavier. Its the car company trying to be cheap with their engineering. Here is a great example of good engineering. Nissan is pulling the same crap with their new GTR.
Current corvette:
LS2
400 hp/400 tq
six spd tranny
18city/28hwy mpg
and the weight you ask? 3,179 lbs. Yes, there are some problems. But, all cars have at least 1 recall problem.
From just the stats, it looks like a good car to me.
Current corvette:
LS2
400 hp/400 tq
six spd tranny
18city/28hwy mpg
and the weight you ask? 3,179 lbs. Yes, there are some problems. But, all cars have at least 1 recall problem.
From just the stats, it looks like a good car to me.
Nissan 350Z- 3400+ lbs
Mustang GT- 3500+ lbs
Shelby Mustang GT- 3900+ lbs
Dodge Challenger- expected to be near 4000 lbs
Chevy Camaro- expected to be near 4000 lbs (convertible)
Pontiac GTO- 3700+ lbs
Ferrari Maranello- 3800+ lbs
Lamborghini Murcielago- 3800+ lbs
Aston Martin Vantage V8- 3700+ lbs
Ferrari Fiorano- 3700+ lbs
Porsche 997 Turbo- nearly 3500 lbs
Mazda Miata- gaining weight with every generation that passes
Lamborghini Gallardo- 3400+ lbs
Golf GTI- 3300-3400 lbs (last generation 1.8T was around 3100 lbs)
These are all well-engineered vehicles. It's not a matter of poor engineering and designing. Safety contraints are getting tighter and tighter, causing companies to dump in extra weight- side air bags, airbags that come out of the seats, curtain air bags, thicker bumpers, more crush zones, etc.
You think that Nissan's GTR is going to be light? Dude, that thing's gonna weigh over 3600 lbs! The R34 weighed over 3600 lbs. This "new" GTR looks twice as hefty as the R34.
Look at the classic American Muscle Cars. The '62-'65 Chevy Nova weighed about 2600-2700 lbs, while the '68-'74 models weighed about 3100 lbs. Fox-body Mustangs, while not classics, weighed around 3100 lbs. With the '94-'98 models they porked out to nearly 3400 lbs. The current generations weigh over 3500 lbs! A classic Camaro weighed next to nothing. Why do you think these cars were so quick? They were light and had a lot of horsepower. Here's an eye-opener for you. A Road Runner (as large as they are) only weighed about 3400 lbs.
That's not even touching on the current Corvette. Look at the price of it. That car costs around $45,000. It is a HALO car. GM is trying to build a "911 killer" and undercut the competition by thousands, and while not "killing" the 911, they're sure as hell keeping up with it. If the Corvette were anything but a "halo" car, it wouldn't be receiving so much attention to cut weight, add performance, and add safety all at the same time. When you pile weight on some place, you have to remove it in another. Weight savings costs money.
Last edited by Sinister Subaru; 06-18-2006 at 05:04 AM.
#63
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Car Info: silverWRX wagon
What is up with this!!!!!!??????
I dont know if anyone has already posted this.... but what the "F" is subaru thinking? WHY? I'm heated!!!! This car Sucks! This is the 2008 impreza, a.k.a. the volkswagen killer.... Honestly why would subaru want to lose such a large market for the wrx... correct me if i'm wrong- I hope I am...
Last edited by sellers; 06-19-2006 at 02:35 PM. Reason: Information
#65
Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
That's not even touching on the current Corvette. Look at the price of it. That car costs around $45,000. It is a HALO car. GM is trying to build a "911 killer" and undercut the competition by thousands, and while not "killing" the 911, they're sure as hell keeping up with it. If the Corvette were anything but a "halo" car, it wouldn't be receiving so much attention to cut weight, add performance, and add safety all at the same time. When you pile weight on some place, you have to remove it in another. Weight savings costs money.
You just proved my point in this paragraph. The last sentance says it all. The new GTR is going to weigh 3500+ and you're going to spend more then a vette? Screw that.
#66
Originally Posted by sellers
#67
TAHT is a turbo hybrid concept from the 2005 tokyo auto show. It's called the B5-TPH (turbo parallel hybrid). It's NOT an impreza.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...511_subaru_b5/
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...511_subaru_b5/
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