I would have to disagree that there are more "older" domestic cars then foreign cars. I see a lot of 10+ year old foreign cars, infact I drive 1994 Nissan Sentra (will get the subaru in June) and I see many similar year nissans and countless late '80s hondas. My friend drives a 1989 nissan maxima.

It is really hard to compare because there are so many cars on the road period, and the distibution by manufacturer can change depending on where you live. It also depends on the number of cars that were imported. Instead of what number of cars are on the road still, the percentage of cars that are still on the road would be a better indicator.

Another factor that can alter this is the cost of repairs. My understanding was that it used to be more expensive to get parts for an imported car then for a domestic car. (Again this may go back to before I was aware of such things). Also, it depends on the car itself. You see a lot of mustangs still on the road because people car about them and pay to have them repaired. I don't see nearly as many old Ford Escort Ponies. (That was my first car and it was awesome )

Regardless, I think that we are in agreement that American Made cars are not any worse then foreign cars. My original intention was to try and identify a reason for the stereotype.

Personally I think every car manufacturer has their own problems, and any car you get has the possibility of being a junker. My Uncle worked for a chevy dealership in the service department and swore he would never buy a chevy because of all the problems they had, but he owned a ford F150, Expedition, Mustang (2 of them) and a couple of Taurus SHOs (most of them at the same time) and they were constantly in the shop. They had four cars because one was always in getting something fixed. (They just bought a Lexus because it is a nicer toyota)

Anyway, as I said before, I think we are pretty much in agreement.

-CZ

 

Most definitely in agreement.

Around here there are a lot of older domestics than imports. I guess it all depends on where you live. For the record, I consistently see GC8-style Subarus ALL THE TIME. I also see A LOT of older Outbacks.

While on the subject of Subarus, Subarus are the #1 selling car in Colorado.

 

http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=291360

These pics are disturbing

 

I've been holding out waiting to see what the new platform will be like. I was hoping they wouldn't go the route they appear to be. If it is truely becoming an upmarket family car, according to this quote "...the Impreza will be transformed from rally-inspired saloon to upmarket family car" then I won't be buying one. They will be completely alienating the enthusiasts that currently buy the wrx and sti.

If that concept pic is somewhat accurate theres going to be a scramble to buy the remaining 2007's. As much as I love subaru and have for years and years I might even have to pic up an evo...course I would have to get a 9 since the 10 looks like it will be hideous also.

 

I'd hit that.

 

Ferrari owns you

 

It'll probably just be assembled here. Toyota has been "assembling" vehicles here for years with no adverse effects from it. However, the Japanese people take much more pride in their work than Americans. I'd prefer to have Japan assembling my car.

 

say good bye to JDM as we know it, US manafacturing

 

mexico and brazil

 

freakin gay that their going to make them in the states!!!! our imports are DYING!!!!!!! man!!!!!

PLUS if they actually make the impreza look that BUTT UGLY i'm going to die!!! i know a little too emo of me, but can anyone tell me why car company's are so fasinated with futuristic designs??? man i want to club these designers in the head!!!

 

There are no such things as "designers" any longer. All their "designs" are done in Auto-Cad on a computer. Long gone are the days of passionate designs (not that any Subaru ever had a passionate design anyway...).

Take a look at the domestic cars from the '50s, '60s, and early '70s. You had beautiful cars to choose from like the Chevy Bel Air, Impala, Biscayne, Nova, Camaro, Chevelle, Pontiac LeMans/GTO, Firebird, Grand Prix, Oldsmobile F85, Cutlass, Buick GSX Stage 1, Special, Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth Cuda, Fury, Challenger, Charger, Road Runner, Duster, Dart, Coronet, etc. All of those cars oozed passion.

Today we're stuck with stale egg-shaped or boringly-styled cars with no style like Toyota Camry, Chrysler Sebring, Chevy Malibu, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Mitsubishi Galant, Buick LaCrosse, Subaru Forester and Baja, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Altima, (everything) Honda, etc.

Car design just sucks today. The only styling department with any ***** whatsoever is Chrysler's, and even some of their designs are suspect (like the Charger). The Caliber? WTF? However, the 300C and the Viper look good. Audi? Don't even get me started on Audi. Their cars all look the same aside from the fact that some are longer than others.....

 

You totally hit the nail on the head with that comment! But you cant forget, some of them are a bit wider too LOL Not to mention that the VeeDUBS now have the same exact front end as the Audi's too, with the exception of the "VW" Logo as opposed to the Audi "Rings."

-Ted

 

designers draw on paper first then if the company likes the dawnings they us auto cad to draw it on the computer, they don't just have some nobody tech in the office come up with all their car designs. i mean if you just think about that it doesn't make sence.

BUT either way however you believe they do it, all these design's are all gay and i feel like i should beat my head into a wall!!!!

 

Very true. Look at the front ends of the Golf/GTI and the Jetta! I'll just add that VW is already working on a new design because people don't like the current one. In fact, the Golf/GTI is going to be receiving an update two years ahead of schedule because sales are sucking. In all honesty, I have only seen ONE new Golf/GTI on the road since the redesign.

 

Yep, you're right. Look at the early 4th Generation Camaros (1993-1997) and that "high performance" Storm LSi (?). The front ends are almost exactly alike, down to the location of the fog lights and the "deep pocket" head lamps! I know, as I own a 1994 LT1 Camaro. I never noticed it until I saw one of these crappy Storms in my rearview mirror one day.

While barking about Camaros, let's talk about the 1998-2002 models. Can anyone say, "CHRYSLER?"