Prodrive-USA to offer 292 hp kit for standard WRX
02-21-2003 | 07:59 PM
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From: Pottstown, PA
Car Info: '04 Deep Blue .:R32
Originally posted by Rudy
I don't think he meant they took the engine out of a 2.5 RS and put a turbo on it with some mods. I do however believe that the block was molded after the 2.5 with major mods. As I said, we will just have to wait and see if it can handle 450+ HP. All I know is my STi will stay factory for at least a year or so till I am sure it can handle more HP. 300 will do just fine for now... :~)
I don't think he meant they took the engine out of a 2.5 RS and put a turbo on it with some mods. I do however believe that the block was molded after the 2.5 with major mods. As I said, we will just have to wait and see if it can handle 450+ HP. All I know is my STi will stay factory for at least a year or so till I am sure it can handle more HP. 300 will do just fine for now... :~)
02-22-2003 | 07:05 AM
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Car Info: 03 wrx,944 turbo racecar, Lexus is300
Prodrive-usa 292hp kit details...
Originally posted by STiDreams
Hey 944 turbo guy,
Don't be a teas.
Can you let us in on what going to be in the ProDrive upgrade packages for both the WRX and the STi?
Thanks
Hey 944 turbo guy,
Don't be a teas.
Can you let us in on what going to be in the ProDrive upgrade packages for both the WRX and the STi?Thanks
944 turbo guy
02-22-2003 | 04:44 PM
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Car Info: 2004 WRX STi
Hopefully it will not be too outragous. An extra 100 crank hp for an uppie, turbo-back and reflash is pretty good. Since it's comming from Prodrive, will it be given the ok from SOA? Or is it going to be frownded upon by SOA as a "modded" vehical?
02-22-2003 | 06:13 PM
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went to prodrive's site
and found this for the previous STi http://www.prodrive.com/uploadedFiles/STiPP.pdf
very impressive..
0-60 4.62
standing quarter mile 13.40
with our 300 hp STi..
hehe..
like 944 said..
we are looking at low 4s and high 12s
and found this for the previous STi http://www.prodrive.com/uploadedFiles/STiPP.pdf
very impressive..
0-60 4.62
standing quarter mile 13.40
with our 300 hp STi..
hehe..
like 944 said..
we are looking at low 4s and high 12s
02-23-2003 | 06:06 AM
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Car Info: 03 wrx,944 turbo racecar, Lexus is300
Price.......
Originally posted by ducaticorse
what about a price?
what about a price?
944tg
02-23-2003 | 06:08 AM
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Car Info: 03 wrx,944 turbo racecar, Lexus is300
WRX...
Originally posted by RichiQY
thats for the WRX right?
anything for STi yet?
thats for the WRX right?
anything for STi yet?
944 tg
02-23-2003 | 06:17 AM
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Car Info: 03 wrx,944 turbo racecar, Lexus is300
400 hp STI....
Originally posted by RichiQY
went to prodrive's site
and found this for the previous STi http://www.prodrive.com/uploadedFiles/STiPP.pdf
very impressive..
0-60 4.62
standing quarter mile 13.40
with our 300 hp STi..
hehe..
like 944 said..
we are looking at low 4s and high 12s
went to prodrive's site
and found this for the previous STi http://www.prodrive.com/uploadedFiles/STiPP.pdf
very impressive..
0-60 4.62
standing quarter mile 13.40
with our 300 hp STi..
hehe..
like 944 said..
we are looking at low 4s and high 12s
Richiqy--
I really think that when a 300hp, PPP Prodrive UK based STI can do the Quarter mile in 13.4 seconds, then a 400 hp US STI with goo-gobs of torque 'awta be able to dip in the mid 12 second range,..think about it,..were adding 100 hp to it and its not like traction will be an issue,..? right? And for those late night drive back from Road Atlanta on RT 85( 5 lanes wide and no cops) 170 mph,..of course hypothetically speaking,....170 mph top speed..
944 turbo guy.
PS ..the bottom line is ,.anyone who for a second doubts that a US 2.5 STI cant make 400hp is not very smart. ECU alone is worth 25 hp, and then let it breath( 2.5 is a big airpump, bigger than a 2.0 by a landslide). Keep in mind that the boost will be controlled by the ECU now.
02-23-2003 | 05:37 PM
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2750 $ for the WRX to get to 290 hp??
thats a great deal..
prodrive sure is mastering the Subie ECU..
w/ 400 hp in that STi..
watch out.. the super rich ppl in Westwood..w/ their 911s and ferraris..
here comes my Scooby rocket..
thats a great deal..
prodrive sure is mastering the Subie ECU..
w/ 400 hp in that STi..
watch out.. the super rich ppl in Westwood..w/ their 911s and ferraris..
here comes my Scooby rocket..
02-23-2003 | 09:33 PM
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I'd be a little suspicious about 292HP on a stock bottom end, especially on US gas. The JDM WRX makes 250 stock becuause they can get 95 octane gas (vs our 91-93 stuff).
Check out SPD tunings page on the topic (http://www.spdusa.com/wrx_intro.htm and specifically http://www.spdusa.com/new_page_4.htm)
they've got more experience tuning Scoobies than anyone in the US (except for Prodrive) having been doing it even before the WRX even hit our shores.
I looked at the Prodrive site and the contents of the level 3 kit and it seems to be mostly bolt on components (and illegal in CA if your car has less than 50K miles due to changing out the cat).
Can anyone point to the article that said it was good for 292hp? Based on what SPD says it looks more like 260 or so.
Anyway, just my US$0.02.
-E2
Check out SPD tunings page on the topic (http://www.spdusa.com/wrx_intro.htm and specifically http://www.spdusa.com/new_page_4.htm)
they've got more experience tuning Scoobies than anyone in the US (except for Prodrive) having been doing it even before the WRX even hit our shores.
I looked at the Prodrive site and the contents of the level 3 kit and it seems to be mostly bolt on components (and illegal in CA if your car has less than 50K miles due to changing out the cat).
Can anyone point to the article that said it was good for 292hp? Based on what SPD says it looks more like 260 or so.
Anyway, just my US$0.02.
-E2
02-23-2003 | 10:55 PM
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0-60 4.62 @ 260 hp??
then why doens't Evo w/ 271 do a 4.6?
it's lighter too
then why doens't Evo w/ 271 do a 4.6?
it's lighter too
02-24-2003 | 08:37 AM
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Seems I have to keep repeating myself on every forum I go to.
US GAS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
It is NO worse than the gas in Europe or Japan. We use a different rating system than they do. What may appear to be 100 octane gas in Japan is equivalen to our 91/92. Our gas is fine, probably some of the best in the world.
T
US GAS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
It is NO worse than the gas in Europe or Japan. We use a different rating system than they do. What may appear to be 100 octane gas in Japan is equivalen to our 91/92. Our gas is fine, probably some of the best in the world.
T
02-24-2003 | 01:48 PM
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WoRX:
Sorry bubba, but you're wrong on that count.
Aside from the fact that Japanese and Euro gas has a MUCH lower sulpher content, which is what allows GDI to be much more common in Asia and Europe, Japanese pump octane is still higher. A 105 RON rating equates to a US equivalent 100PON number (RON/MON average). While I can get 100 octane gas from the pump at some 76 stations in CA, I'm pretty much stuck drinking 91 as a rule. You were right about Euro and US gas being about equal though (95RON ~= 91PON) .
The upside to this is more consistant gas on our part. We make less power normally, but we don't need to worry about blowing a valve seat on a hot day due to a bad batch from your local Shell. (And god help you if you were driving an Rx-7)
One thing I didn't mention is that Japanese emission standards are much lower than in the US, being about equal to a 1996 49 state car. (Which allows for richer mixtures, and less restrictive cats)
-E2
For more octane info check:
http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/R...RONMONPON.html
and for emissions stuff:
http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/...wnloads/03.pdf
Sorry bubba, but you're wrong on that count.
Aside from the fact that Japanese and Euro gas has a MUCH lower sulpher content, which is what allows GDI to be much more common in Asia and Europe, Japanese pump octane is still higher. A 105 RON rating equates to a US equivalent 100PON number (RON/MON average). While I can get 100 octane gas from the pump at some 76 stations in CA, I'm pretty much stuck drinking 91 as a rule. You were right about Euro and US gas being about equal though (95RON ~= 91PON) .
The upside to this is more consistant gas on our part. We make less power normally, but we don't need to worry about blowing a valve seat on a hot day due to a bad batch from your local Shell. (And god help you if you were driving an Rx-7)
One thing I didn't mention is that Japanese emission standards are much lower than in the US, being about equal to a 1996 49 state car. (Which allows for richer mixtures, and less restrictive cats)
-E2
For more octane info check:
http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/R...RONMONPON.html
and for emissions stuff:
http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/...wnloads/03.pdf
Last edited by aegismonkey; 02-24-2003 at 08:08 PM.
02-24-2003 | 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by WoRX
Seems I have to keep repeating myself on every forum I go to.
US GAS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
It is NO worse than the gas in Europe or Japan. We use a different rating system than they do. What may appear to be 100 octane gas in Japan is equivalen to our 91/92. Our gas is fine, probably some of the best in the world.
T
Seems I have to keep repeating myself on every forum I go to.
US GAS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
It is NO worse than the gas in Europe or Japan. We use a different rating system than they do. What may appear to be 100 octane gas in Japan is equivalen to our 91/92. Our gas is fine, probably some of the best in the world.
T
we do have lower octane gas..