Anyone here use diamond audio?
01-14-2004, 02:44 PM
#3
Originally posted by pdqwrx
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
i know of at least a few other members using diamond audio. i myself am using a diamond audio setup. don't listen to the JL supremacy posted above. go to an audio shop with both brands and listen to them side by side and you'll know what i mean. for subwoofer amps (500/1, 1000/1) JL is *decent*. for components, there are much better brands to use besides JL: focal, diamond audio, dynaudio, etc.
db
01-14-2004, 04:04 PM
#5
also, if you use a Diamond Audio amp, you can use the onboard x-overs to fine tune everything. for example, you can use a 4-channel DA amp (D7054) to run a set of s600 components: both tweeters take up two channels while both mid-bass drivers take up the other two channel output.
it's a bit pricey, but this is a very versatile setup since the DA amp allows you to tweak the output range as well as the gain.
see if you can audition such a setup...you won't be disappointed!
db
it's a bit pricey, but this is a very versatile setup since the DA amp allows you to tweak the output range as well as the gain.
see if you can audition such a setup...you won't be disappointed!
db
01-14-2004, 04:33 PM
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you're kidding, right?
you're kidding, right?
Now let’s talk about JL. I agree that their Evolution product could sound better, but it is priced right and doesn’t fail. As for the amps that you mentioned, if the JL Audio 500/1 is just "decent" then how did JL sell more 500/1's last year then any other single model amp sold by any company (The 300/2 was 4th or 5th). I find it hard to believe that the number 1 amp sold in America last year was just "decent". They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive. JL Audio is one of the few companies that still takes pride in the products they make. Cheers
01-14-2004, 05:15 PM
#7
Re: you're kidding, right?
Originally posted by pdqwrx
As for the amps that you mentioned, if the JL Audio 500/1 is just "decent" then how did JL sell more 500/1's last year then any other single model amp sold by any company (The 300/2 was 4th or 5th). I find it hard to believe that the number 1 amp sold in America last year was just "decent". They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive. JL Audio is one of the few companies that still takes pride in the products they make. Cheers
As for the amps that you mentioned, if the JL Audio 500/1 is just "decent" then how did JL sell more 500/1's last year then any other single model amp sold by any company (The 300/2 was 4th or 5th). I find it hard to believe that the number 1 amp sold in America last year was just "decent". They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive. JL Audio is one of the few companies that still takes pride in the products they make. Cheers
regarding diamond's reliability, i have had my setup for over 1.5 years now and have not had a problem to date. the amp has not had any problems...running under an 8 ohm load. the speakers are also warm and lively..sonically, i am ecstatic listening to music on this setup. reliability-wise, i have also been very pleased. having no problems with diamond reliability, i wholeheartedly recommend their products based on my experience.
as for the 500/1 amp, i am running that amp for the reasons you stated above: "They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive." however, if cost wasn't the issue, i would have gone with zapco.
jl's pre-amp adjustability is indeed impressive. this is probably the very reason why it is so popular...the versatility coupled with its modest price. but to say that diamond audio gear is "crap" when i have had no reliability concerns thus far is unfounded.
again, i speak from my experience. if asked, i will comment on their products based on my experience as i'm sure you will too...
db
01-14-2004, 07:45 PM
#8
Originally posted by pdqwrx
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
01-14-2004, 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by pdqwrx
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
Complete CRAPPPPPPPPP....... Buy JL instead.:banana:
IM KIDDING!!!!
I think you two both have good points. I have experienced both brands, i find it interesting that there would be that many defective products from Diamond audio, but at the same time i have found jl amps to be better quality. I think JL is overated however, such as their acclaimed w7 subwoofer, however both brands in my opinion are quality. And personally neither has ever let me down.
01-20-2004, 10:09 AM
#10
Re: you're kidding, right?
Originally posted by pdqwrx
Perhaps I should have explained a few other things in my post....First, I am a certified IASCA judge that has judged at the many regional and national events, I am also a 15 year car audio store manager/custom installer and my store carries both Diamond Audio and JL Audio as well as Boston Acoustics, Morel, Dynaudio, Eclipse and all your basic car stereo brands. Now as for Diamond Audio- I should have taken pictures of the pallet of amps and speakers that we sent back after our initial amp order having a 75% defective rate and a gaggle of soft dome tweeters blown up, and several woofers that didn't like having tinsel leads attached to them. We sent back something like 20 bogus amps from both the D5 and the D7 lines. Why? Because it was crapppp! Diamond was pretty good about sending us more defective amps though. As of CES this year we are not doing business with Diamond any longer as we can no longer waste our time to sell Diamond amps only to have to swap the customer in to a JL the next day. We would rather just sell better product in the first place. As for failures- The D7 amps are thermally unstable at anything under an 8 ohm load (Even with the internal fans). They are also greatly underpowered for their price. The D5 amps are equally unstable and underpowered plus they "benefit" from poorly designed preamp sections that are extremely sensitive to noise. In there defense, their coaxes sounded pretty good and never blew up.
Now let’s talk about JL. I agree that their Evolution product could sound better, but it is priced right and doesn’t fail. As for the amps that you mentioned, if the JL Audio 500/1 is just "decent" then how did JL sell more 500/1's last year then any other single model amp sold by any company (The 300/2 was 4th or 5th). I find it hard to believe that the number 1 amp sold in America last year was just "decent". They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive. JL Audio is one of the few companies that still takes pride in the products they make. Cheers
Perhaps I should have explained a few other things in my post....First, I am a certified IASCA judge that has judged at the many regional and national events, I am also a 15 year car audio store manager/custom installer and my store carries both Diamond Audio and JL Audio as well as Boston Acoustics, Morel, Dynaudio, Eclipse and all your basic car stereo brands. Now as for Diamond Audio- I should have taken pictures of the pallet of amps and speakers that we sent back after our initial amp order having a 75% defective rate and a gaggle of soft dome tweeters blown up, and several woofers that didn't like having tinsel leads attached to them. We sent back something like 20 bogus amps from both the D5 and the D7 lines. Why? Because it was crapppp! Diamond was pretty good about sending us more defective amps though. As of CES this year we are not doing business with Diamond any longer as we can no longer waste our time to sell Diamond amps only to have to swap the customer in to a JL the next day. We would rather just sell better product in the first place. As for failures- The D7 amps are thermally unstable at anything under an 8 ohm load (Even with the internal fans). They are also greatly underpowered for their price. The D5 amps are equally unstable and underpowered plus they "benefit" from poorly designed preamp sections that are extremely sensitive to noise. In there defense, their coaxes sounded pretty good and never blew up.
Now let’s talk about JL. I agree that their Evolution product could sound better, but it is priced right and doesn’t fail. As for the amps that you mentioned, if the JL Audio 500/1 is just "decent" then how did JL sell more 500/1's last year then any other single model amp sold by any company (The 300/2 was 4th or 5th). I find it hard to believe that the number 1 amp sold in America last year was just "decent". They also have one of the best preamp stages available today with more adjustability and control then anything Diamond Audio could even conceive. JL Audio is one of the few companies that still takes pride in the products they make. Cheers
So it looks like you carry good stuff and I'd really like someone that knows subarus.
I am a huge huge fan of JL and not so huge of diamond. There stuff generally sounds awesome but I've also heard similar horror stories from shop owners about failure rates. I nearly bought some for my car but I may go a different route...possibly morel or CDT.
as for JL. I have run several different complete systems the last one/kinda 2 being completely JL. I doubt I'll buy another amp that is not JL. I love them. I ran a 300/4 in my civic with JL XR speakers and VR speakers in various forms. I had my 6x9's in the car for probably 3 years...pounded the living hell out of them and often times people sat in my car and asked where the sub was. They sound that good. I had one amp and one speaker blow and had a huge fiasco with replacing them that ended up costing me a crap load of money but that's cause the installers and the owner of the shop I went through were complete idiots.
I am in the process of doing my system in my wagon. I have a JL 300/4 and will likely add a 500/1 to it.
02-08-2004, 10:48 AM
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i have a diamond setup in my STi: hex series 5.5's in the front, and just reg'lar old diamond coaxials in the back....everything is in the "stock" place....and it sounds good, real good, actually.....BUT....
i cant abide the tweeters, they kill me.....rap and most techno is fine, but get a good punk riff on there, and it will drill straight through your ears......and i got the silk tweets, and have them set at negative 2.....
also, i can attest to what pdqwrx was saying about their amps.....i'm on my second amp, because the first one had to be ripped out and sent back......want some advice? stick with alpine amps, ive had the same V-12 powering my JL subs for six years.....and the STi is the third car they've been in....all the diamond stuff is new and finnicky. if i had to do it again.....i would do JL or boston acoustics.....diamond is way to bright, and their amps are subpar.
i cant abide the tweeters, they kill me.....rap and most techno is fine, but get a good punk riff on there, and it will drill straight through your ears......and i got the silk tweets, and have them set at negative 2.....
also, i can attest to what pdqwrx was saying about their amps.....i'm on my second amp, because the first one had to be ripped out and sent back......want some advice? stick with alpine amps, ive had the same V-12 powering my JL subs for six years.....and the STi is the third car they've been in....all the diamond stuff is new and finnicky. if i had to do it again.....i would do JL or boston acoustics.....diamond is way to bright, and their amps are subpar.
Last edited by dartheadz; 02-08-2004 at 10:53 AM.
02-18-2004, 03:15 PM
#12
honestly, until this thread, everything i've heard about DA has been favorable to the brand.
instead of arguing, i have to THANK you guys for posting your experience/knowledge concerning the brand. one person's experience might be skewed, but taken together, i believe you guys.
*staring at my DA setup and crossing my fingers*
LOL
instead of arguing, i have to THANK you guys for posting your experience/knowledge concerning the brand. one person's experience might be skewed, but taken together, i believe you guys.
*staring at my DA setup and crossing my fingers*
LOL
03-02-2004, 01:11 PM
#15
Originally posted by GReddy212
Diamond subs are very good, they sound awesome and hit hard if you have the right set up... dont buy JL
Diamond subs are very good, they sound awesome and hit hard if you have the right set up... dont buy JL
Any reasons behind that? I am yet to hear a single sub that hits harder than a w7 and looks as good doing it. Their stuff is very well engineered and sound incredible. I never got one complaint but got tons of awes and questions when riding in my old car...nothing but JL.
In my wrx I'll be running CDT speakers but JL amps and sub.