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Baita ****
Minikui Ugly
Demarinasai Be quiet
Damare Shut up!
Dema ru Shut up!
Yaka mashi Shut up!
Urusai Shut up!
Urusai gaki Shut up, brat!
Uchujin Alien
Urusai gaki Shut up, brat
Kichigaijimata Insane
Henjin Freak
Chikusho Damn!, Damnit!
Kyojakuji Weakling
Mattsu! Oh crap!
Baka yaro Stupid bastard
Chikusho! Damnit!
Kuso ****
Kisama Kisama is essentially a derogatory version of 'you', but is more commonly translated as 'bastard.'
Oppai Breasts, nipples
Ketsunoana You *******
Onara Fart
He Fart
Kin tama Golden ***** (*********)
Tama *****, *********
Kisama Lord of the donkeys
Anata wa dame desu You're no good
Manko *****
Oni Demon
Busu Ugly woman
Kuso shinezo! Die ****ting
Onara atama Fart head
Roba Donkey
Kuma kuso Bear ****
Kuso atama **** head
Ama *****
Mocca-Mocca Su Su **** you
Shine Die
Yariman Female *****
Yarichin Male *****
Shimatta Damn it
Hhayaku inaku nareyo **** off
Koro ****e yaru I'm going to kill you
Mocca-mocca su su Ama **** you, *****
Oushikoso Bull****
Dame Stupid
Himo Pimp
Hako Vagina
Manzuri Female masturbation
Gokanma Rape-devil
Faku ****
Norou Damn
Urusee You are too noisy
Ketsu Buttocks, ***
Oshiri Buttocks, ***
Fela Oral sex
Paizuri Tatsujin Tit **** expert
Baka Idiot
Kutabare **** You
Zakennayo **** You
Kieuseru **** off
Ore Me (impolite outside close circle. Only said by males.)
Omae You (impolite outside close circle)
Temae You (very impolite)
Jiji Bastard
Yaro Bastard
Kisama Bastard
Jigoku ni ike Go to Hell
Boku no shiri ni kisu siro Kiss my ***
Paizuri Breast ****ing
Busu Ugly female
Nonbei A drunk, lush
Menkui Shallow
Yowayowashii Chicken ****, coward, wimp
Echi ****e kudasai Please have sex with me
Nyow nyow ****a ku nai You don't want to get freaky with me?
Watashi no chinko kata My dick is hard
Chinko Erect *****
Chimpo Erect *****
Chinpon Erect *****
Poku jin *****, Dick, ****
Kintama ***** head
Mange Female pubic hair
Chinge Male public hair
Manko ****
Okama Homosexual
Rezurareru (A woman) gets ****ed by a lesbian
Onnabe Lesbian
Rezuru Lesbianism
Nuhafu Drag queen, cross dresser
Abazure Hussy
Hentai ****
Chikan Pervert, kinky
Sukebe Sex maniac
Tanuki Womanizer
Yora sha Mentally sick, perverted
Chikan Molester
Opai Breasts
Tata nai Impotent
Funyachin Impotent
Ii keisu Nice ***
Ichata I came, ejaculated
Oshaburi Blow job
Shaku hatchi Blow job
Kunni Cunnilingus
Piston undo Hard ****ing
Masu o kaku **********
Onanii **********
Masu kaki **********
Anata no manko ga nurete imasu ka? Is your ***** wet?
Bukkoro****e yaru zo I'm going to beat you to a pulp
Mukatsuku ****ing bull**** pisses me off!
Kocha koi Come here and get your *** kicked
Zura karu ze Let's get the **** out of here
Toki benkii ga waredu Splitting porcelain
Baba kusai Old woman smell
Debou wa ase o taksan kakimasu Fat people sweat a lot
Chikishou Damn
Kuso ****e shinezo Die ****ting
Kuso baba **** old woman
Kuso jiji **** old man
Hara guzuchi o tataku na Shut the **** up
Tameguchi kitten ja ney o Don't disrespect me, you ****
Do digata ni kazana ho akeruzou I'm going to rip open your abdomen
Baka yaro **** you
Ecchi ****, have sex
Baka neingino Stupid human
Yourou Bastard
Kuso baka yarou ****ing Idiot
Fuzzakkenayo Get the **** out!
Chibi Stubby
Tansoku Stubby legs
Baka Stupid, *****
Dekaijiri Fat ***
Momojiri Peach ***
Heso mageru Weirdo (lit. twisted bellybutton)
Asa dachi Morning glory (to wake with an erect *****)
Hine daikon Shriveled dick
Mammae ****
Reizun pai Flat ****
Manko ****
Senzuri ****
Nozoki Peeping Tom
Shomben ****
Okama ***got
Oray no shieta koto jenai I don't give a damn
Kutabare **** you!
Kutabacchimae **** you!
Onore Bastard, jerk
Baka Idiot (Strong insult in Japan)
Bakana Stupid
Bakayaro Bastard, *******
Ecchi Perverted
Kono yaro Bastard, jerk, *******
Kusottare Bastard, *******
Nande kuso? What the hell?
Oreno chinko swe Suck my dick
Oban *****y old hag
Uma kuso Horse ****
Inu kuso Dog ****
No tarin Stupid (Lit. lacking brains)
Obatarien An overbearing, nagging woman
Ahou Moron
Kisama Very impolite way of saying 'YOU!'
Shimatta! Damnit!
Ike ike *****
Anata baka chibi ike ike You stupid chubby *****
Anata wa sei desu? Do you want to have sex
<Insert name> wa motomonai desu <Insert name> is ugly
Bakeru Son of a *****
Anata wa baka yaro desu You're a ****in' idiot
Kisama tama Lord of donkey's *****
Urusai, kono bakayaro! Shut up, noisy idiot!
Watashi no manko ga nurete imasu My ***** is wet
Chikusyo! Damn it!
Baka yameroyo! Don't act stupid! (Male)
Baka yameteyo! Don't act stupid! (Female)
Namaiki iuna! Don't be so cocky!
Namen nayo! Don't **** with me!
Baka iunayo! Don't say stupid things! (Male)
Netenjya ne-! Wake up, you bastard!
Bakani sunjya ne-! Don't think I'm stupid! (Male)
Bakani sinaideyo! Don't think I'm stupid! (Female)
Tsuppattenjya ne-yo! Don't try to be cool!
Okama! ***!
Mukou ike! **** off! (Male)
Mukou itteyo! **** off! (Female)
Kutabare! **** you!
Neboken nayo! Get your head out of your ***!
Bukkorosu! I'm going to kick your ***!
Sukebe! Vulgar, lewd
Usotsuki! Liar!
Omanko *****
Hentai Hentai Sexual perversion
Kuso! ****!
Yabbe-! ****, ****ed up! (Male)
Yabaiyo-! ****, ****ed up! (Female)
Chibi! Shorty!
Tansoku! Short legs!
Baka jyane-! That's stupid! (Male)
Baka mitai! That's stupid! (Female)
Jyajya uma! Tomboy!
Yowacty! Weakling! (Male)
Ikuji nasi! Weakling! (Female)
Teme- konorayou! You dog! (Male)
Konoyarou! You dog! (Female)
Kono buta! You pig!
Kitane-na! You're a dirtbag! (Male)
Kitanai wane! You're a dirtbag! (Female)
Saite-dana! You're the lowest! (Male)
Saite-! You're the lowest! (Female)
Tansyo-! Your 'tool' [*****] is small!
Busu! You're ugly! (Male)
Ara kawai-! You're ugly! (Female)
Yariman! You *****! (Male)
Yariman onna! You *****! (Female)
Issunboshi One Inch Boy (refers to ***** size)
Hizoku Bandit
Omae o korosu I will kill you (to a person of lower status)
Antara futari sorotte temeko ****atsu no? Did you girls really finger **** each other?
Jigoku e ike Go to hell
Impo Limp dick/impotent
Chinkasu Dick cheese
Mankasu Puss cheese
Monge bobo Hairy *****
Chinge bobo Hairy ****
Mikosurihan Three stroker (*** quickly)
Ikakusai Smell like ***
Koushu benjo ****
Sukatoro Eat ****
Jama Shinaide **** Off
Anta no Baka ****ing Idiot
Otemba Tomboy (rudest version)
Shinjimae **** you
Bakamano Stupid person
Shiyo To ****
Yaro To ****
Shte **** me
Yate **** me
Nameru To suck (gently)
Shaburu To suck (hard)
Ferachi suru To suck dick
Yaritai Horny
Oshiko suru To ****
Unko suru To ****
seshe, speruma Sperm
Ko mon ***
Chikubi, Chichi Nipples
(O)meko **** (west Japanese dialect)
Hentai jiji Dirty old man
Seiri Woman's period
Gabaman Huge ****
Boke Idiot, fool
Shiko shiko suru To ********** (male)
Ama *****
Chikushome Son of a *****
Chimpira ***** (Osaka Dialect)
Gansha suru To *** on someone's face
Benjo Mushi ****house insect!
Sonna koto ****ta koto ja nai I don't give a damn.
Ittai nani ga ho****enda What the hell do you want?
Ittai nani ga ****enda What the hell is that?
Jinkokuniike Go to hell
Shinezu buso kuso Die you ugly ****.
Omanko ni banzai Dive into the *****
Kuso kurai Eat ****
Jigoku ochiru Go to hell
Sentako itay Flat-chested (lit. "ironing board")
Oppai ii desu Nice **** (extremely large ones)
Baka na gaijin Crazy/stupid foreigner
Komban hima desu ka? Are you available tonight
Busaiku Butt-Ugly
Nani mitendayo, kora! What the **** are you looking at?
Pakimono Freak!
Anatano ohkaasan wa kuso desu! Your mother is ****!
Ikasete! Make me ***!
Sugu ikasete! Make me *** now!
Chipitama ********
Baka Ona Stupid women
Oma Kora su I'm going to kill you
Oma Korence Prepare to die
Kuso Oh, ****!, Damn!
Onani o shimasu ka? Do you **********?
Rippogakusha Rabies
Kusatta Rotten
Oni Demon
Inoshishi Wildpig
Ookiosewada Up yours!
Ano jore-me That ****!
Iku iku I'm coming!
Nametonka? (Kansai Dialect) Want me to kick your ***?
Nametonchaunka? (Kansai Dialect-humorous) Want your *** kicked?
Sadarmi (sat-am-e) Gay Sex
Shinde kudasai Please Die
Ore no ****ta koto ja nai I don't give a damn
Yaoi (gay) Gay
Usotsuki Bull****! / bull****ter! / liar!
Saware! Touch it!
Amai mitsu wo ajiwaitai I want to taste your sweet nectar
Curry aji no unko ka unko aji no curry ka docchi ga ii? Which is better, curry-flavored ****, or ****-flavored curry?
Ano sutorippaa wa ore no me no mammae de suitichi o irete yagatta. That stripper was fingering her **** right in front of my face.
Kuso yarou Mother****er
Anata no ikei wo miru to totemo koufun shimasu You are the dumbest person I have ever seen
Anata no ketsu wa kusa da oyobi ore wa shibakariki da. Your *** is grass, and I'm the lawnmower.
Onushi wa honpou hou wo iru! You're a loose cannon!
Shakuhachi Oral sex (vulgar)
Popi *****
Ororiro Shut up (Female)
Demio Kazamesa Teka Give me some head. (Male)
Demiya Katsume Give me some head (Female)
Minikui Ugly
Demarinasai Be quiet
Damare Shut up!
Dema ru Shut up!
Yaka mashi Shut up!
Urusai Shut up!
Urusai gaki Shut up, brat!
Uchujin Alien
Urusai gaki Shut up, brat
Kichigaijimata Insane
Henjin Freak
Chikusho Damn!, Damnit!
Kyojakuji Weakling
Mattsu! Oh crap!
Baka yaro Stupid bastard
Chikusho! Damnit!
Kuso ****
Kisama Kisama is essentially a derogatory version of 'you', but is more commonly translated as 'bastard.'
Oppai Breasts, nipples
Ketsunoana You *******
Onara Fart
He Fart
Kin tama Golden ***** (*********)
Tama *****, *********
Kisama Lord of the donkeys
Anata wa dame desu You're no good
Manko *****
Oni Demon
Busu Ugly woman
Kuso shinezo! Die ****ting
Onara atama Fart head
Roba Donkey
Kuma kuso Bear ****
Kuso atama **** head
Ama *****
Mocca-Mocca Su Su **** you
Shine Die
Yariman Female *****
Yarichin Male *****
Shimatta Damn it
Hhayaku inaku nareyo **** off
Koro ****e yaru I'm going to kill you
Mocca-mocca su su Ama **** you, *****
Oushikoso Bull****
Dame Stupid
Himo Pimp
Hako Vagina
Manzuri Female masturbation
Gokanma Rape-devil
Faku ****
Norou Damn
Urusee You are too noisy
Ketsu Buttocks, ***
Oshiri Buttocks, ***
Fela Oral sex
Paizuri Tatsujin Tit **** expert
Baka Idiot
Kutabare **** You
Zakennayo **** You
Kieuseru **** off
Ore Me (impolite outside close circle. Only said by males.)
Omae You (impolite outside close circle)
Temae You (very impolite)
Jiji Bastard
Yaro Bastard
Kisama Bastard
Jigoku ni ike Go to Hell
Boku no shiri ni kisu siro Kiss my ***
Paizuri Breast ****ing
Busu Ugly female
Nonbei A drunk, lush
Menkui Shallow
Yowayowashii Chicken ****, coward, wimp
Echi ****e kudasai Please have sex with me
Nyow nyow ****a ku nai You don't want to get freaky with me?
Watashi no chinko kata My dick is hard
Chinko Erect *****
Chimpo Erect *****
Chinpon Erect *****
Poku jin *****, Dick, ****
Kintama ***** head
Mange Female pubic hair
Chinge Male public hair
Manko ****
Okama Homosexual
Rezurareru (A woman) gets ****ed by a lesbian
Onnabe Lesbian
Rezuru Lesbianism
Nuhafu Drag queen, cross dresser
Abazure Hussy
Hentai ****
Chikan Pervert, kinky
Sukebe Sex maniac
Tanuki Womanizer
Yora sha Mentally sick, perverted
Chikan Molester
Opai Breasts
Tata nai Impotent
Funyachin Impotent
Ii keisu Nice ***
Ichata I came, ejaculated
Oshaburi Blow job
Shaku hatchi Blow job
Kunni Cunnilingus
Piston undo Hard ****ing
Masu o kaku **********
Onanii **********
Masu kaki **********
Anata no manko ga nurete imasu ka? Is your ***** wet?
Bukkoro****e yaru zo I'm going to beat you to a pulp
Mukatsuku ****ing bull**** pisses me off!
Kocha koi Come here and get your *** kicked
Zura karu ze Let's get the **** out of here
Toki benkii ga waredu Splitting porcelain
Baba kusai Old woman smell
Debou wa ase o taksan kakimasu Fat people sweat a lot
Chikishou Damn
Kuso ****e shinezo Die ****ting
Kuso baba **** old woman
Kuso jiji **** old man
Hara guzuchi o tataku na Shut the **** up
Tameguchi kitten ja ney o Don't disrespect me, you ****
Do digata ni kazana ho akeruzou I'm going to rip open your abdomen
Baka yaro **** you
Ecchi ****, have sex
Baka neingino Stupid human
Yourou Bastard
Kuso baka yarou ****ing Idiot
Fuzzakkenayo Get the **** out!
Chibi Stubby
Tansoku Stubby legs
Baka Stupid, *****
Dekaijiri Fat ***
Momojiri Peach ***
Heso mageru Weirdo (lit. twisted bellybutton)
Asa dachi Morning glory (to wake with an erect *****)
Hine daikon Shriveled dick
Mammae ****
Reizun pai Flat ****
Manko ****
Senzuri ****
Nozoki Peeping Tom
Shomben ****
Okama ***got
Oray no shieta koto jenai I don't give a damn
Kutabare **** you!
Kutabacchimae **** you!
Onore Bastard, jerk
Baka Idiot (Strong insult in Japan)
Bakana Stupid
Bakayaro Bastard, *******
Ecchi Perverted
Kono yaro Bastard, jerk, *******
Kusottare Bastard, *******
Nande kuso? What the hell?
Oreno chinko swe Suck my dick
Oban *****y old hag
Uma kuso Horse ****
Inu kuso Dog ****
No tarin Stupid (Lit. lacking brains)
Obatarien An overbearing, nagging woman
Ahou Moron
Kisama Very impolite way of saying 'YOU!'
Shimatta! Damnit!
Ike ike *****
Anata baka chibi ike ike You stupid chubby *****
Anata wa sei desu? Do you want to have sex
<Insert name> wa motomonai desu <Insert name> is ugly
Bakeru Son of a *****
Anata wa baka yaro desu You're a ****in' idiot
Kisama tama Lord of donkey's *****
Urusai, kono bakayaro! Shut up, noisy idiot!
Watashi no manko ga nurete imasu My ***** is wet
Chikusyo! Damn it!
Baka yameroyo! Don't act stupid! (Male)
Baka yameteyo! Don't act stupid! (Female)
Namaiki iuna! Don't be so cocky!
Namen nayo! Don't **** with me!
Baka iunayo! Don't say stupid things! (Male)
Netenjya ne-! Wake up, you bastard!
Bakani sunjya ne-! Don't think I'm stupid! (Male)
Bakani sinaideyo! Don't think I'm stupid! (Female)
Tsuppattenjya ne-yo! Don't try to be cool!
Okama! ***!
Mukou ike! **** off! (Male)
Mukou itteyo! **** off! (Female)
Kutabare! **** you!
Neboken nayo! Get your head out of your ***!
Bukkorosu! I'm going to kick your ***!
Sukebe! Vulgar, lewd
Usotsuki! Liar!
Omanko *****
Hentai Hentai Sexual perversion
Kuso! ****!
Yabbe-! ****, ****ed up! (Male)
Yabaiyo-! ****, ****ed up! (Female)
Chibi! Shorty!
Tansoku! Short legs!
Baka jyane-! That's stupid! (Male)
Baka mitai! That's stupid! (Female)
Jyajya uma! Tomboy!
Yowacty! Weakling! (Male)
Ikuji nasi! Weakling! (Female)
Teme- konorayou! You dog! (Male)
Konoyarou! You dog! (Female)
Kono buta! You pig!
Kitane-na! You're a dirtbag! (Male)
Kitanai wane! You're a dirtbag! (Female)
Saite-dana! You're the lowest! (Male)
Saite-! You're the lowest! (Female)
Tansyo-! Your 'tool' [*****] is small!
Busu! You're ugly! (Male)
Ara kawai-! You're ugly! (Female)
Yariman! You *****! (Male)
Yariman onna! You *****! (Female)
Issunboshi One Inch Boy (refers to ***** size)
Hizoku Bandit
Omae o korosu I will kill you (to a person of lower status)
Antara futari sorotte temeko ****atsu no? Did you girls really finger **** each other?
Jigoku e ike Go to hell
Impo Limp dick/impotent
Chinkasu Dick cheese
Mankasu Puss cheese
Monge bobo Hairy *****
Chinge bobo Hairy ****
Mikosurihan Three stroker (*** quickly)
Ikakusai Smell like ***
Koushu benjo ****
Sukatoro Eat ****
Jama Shinaide **** Off
Anta no Baka ****ing Idiot
Otemba Tomboy (rudest version)
Shinjimae **** you
Bakamano Stupid person
Shiyo To ****
Yaro To ****
Shte **** me
Yate **** me
Nameru To suck (gently)
Shaburu To suck (hard)
Ferachi suru To suck dick
Yaritai Horny
Oshiko suru To ****
Unko suru To ****
seshe, speruma Sperm
Ko mon ***
Chikubi, Chichi Nipples
(O)meko **** (west Japanese dialect)
Hentai jiji Dirty old man
Seiri Woman's period
Gabaman Huge ****
Boke Idiot, fool
Shiko shiko suru To ********** (male)
Ama *****
Chikushome Son of a *****
Chimpira ***** (Osaka Dialect)
Gansha suru To *** on someone's face
Benjo Mushi ****house insect!
Sonna koto ****ta koto ja nai I don't give a damn.
Ittai nani ga ho****enda What the hell do you want?
Ittai nani ga ****enda What the hell is that?
Jinkokuniike Go to hell
Shinezu buso kuso Die you ugly ****.
Omanko ni banzai Dive into the *****
Kuso kurai Eat ****
Jigoku ochiru Go to hell
Sentako itay Flat-chested (lit. "ironing board")
Oppai ii desu Nice **** (extremely large ones)
Baka na gaijin Crazy/stupid foreigner
Komban hima desu ka? Are you available tonight
Busaiku Butt-Ugly
Nani mitendayo, kora! What the **** are you looking at?
Pakimono Freak!
Anatano ohkaasan wa kuso desu! Your mother is ****!
Ikasete! Make me ***!
Sugu ikasete! Make me *** now!
Chipitama ********
Baka Ona Stupid women
Oma Kora su I'm going to kill you
Oma Korence Prepare to die
Kuso Oh, ****!, Damn!
Onani o shimasu ka? Do you **********?
Rippogakusha Rabies
Kusatta Rotten
Oni Demon
Inoshishi Wildpig
Ookiosewada Up yours!
Ano jore-me That ****!
Iku iku I'm coming!
Nametonka? (Kansai Dialect) Want me to kick your ***?
Nametonchaunka? (Kansai Dialect-humorous) Want your *** kicked?
Sadarmi (sat-am-e) Gay Sex
Shinde kudasai Please Die
Ore no ****ta koto ja nai I don't give a damn
Yaoi (gay) Gay
Usotsuki Bull****! / bull****ter! / liar!
Saware! Touch it!
Amai mitsu wo ajiwaitai I want to taste your sweet nectar
Curry aji no unko ka unko aji no curry ka docchi ga ii? Which is better, curry-flavored ****, or ****-flavored curry?
Ano sutorippaa wa ore no me no mammae de suitichi o irete yagatta. That stripper was fingering her **** right in front of my face.
Kuso yarou Mother****er
Anata no ikei wo miru to totemo koufun shimasu You are the dumbest person I have ever seen
Anata no ketsu wa kusa da oyobi ore wa shibakariki da. Your *** is grass, and I'm the lawnmower.
Onushi wa honpou hou wo iru! You're a loose cannon!
Shakuhachi Oral sex (vulgar)
Popi *****
Ororiro Shut up (Female)
Demio Kazamesa Teka Give me some head. (Male)
Demiya Katsume Give me some head (Female)
#3382
#3384
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This is just a feeler/tickler.....
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
#3385
Originally Posted by UberMaus
This is just a feeler/tickler.....
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
#3387
Originally Posted by UberMaus
This is just a feeler/tickler.....
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
Would anyjuan from SCIC be interested in a Norcal trip? Originally Franco and I were talking about going up to great america, then to frisco or something.. I know some of you just got back from vegas, but It would be good to get out of LA for a bit. We can discuss the itenerary and details if there are people interested in making the trip.
im down for poker on friday
have the ac ready
#3388
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Originally Posted by shim022
don't forget raider nation!
*Sigh* Fine... But only because you live near there.. Otherwise I wouldn't give much thought towards the raiders..
#3390
Originally Posted by UberMaus
*Sigh* Fine... But only because you live near there.. Otherwise I wouldn't give much thought towards the raiders..