Dark Industries Dyno day-Discounted Ecutek Tuning
04-06-2006, 06:11 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by Dark Industries
Ecutek the Legacy!!!
When this craps out I'll go to something that's more accessable.
04-06-2006, 08:26 PM
#17
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 106
I would really like a Legacy GT wagon in Black or white.
Right now, I can't do it, but a year from now?
That ECU you have looks interesting, If you come to the Dyno Day, remind me about it, I would like to hear about it.
JUN makes some good product.
Right now, I can't do it, but a year from now?
That ECU you have looks interesting, If you come to the Dyno Day, remind me about it, I would like to hear about it.
JUN makes some good product.
04-06-2006, 10:28 PM
#18
Originally Posted by Dark Industries
I would really like a Legacy GT wagon in Black or white.
Right now, I can't do it, but a year from now?
That ECU you have looks interesting, If you come to the Dyno Day, remind me about it, I would like to hear about it.
JUN makes some good product.
Right now, I can't do it, but a year from now?
That ECU you have looks interesting, If you come to the Dyno Day, remind me about it, I would like to hear about it.
JUN makes some good product.
I love that spoiler.
04-07-2006, 01:11 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
post up the leg sti
Originally Posted by ChruiSSer
I didn't take pics the whole way, but I will describe what comes off and how. Also I'll post a list of things you'll need to do this swap. I'll probably forgest some parts so just remind me!
*I DON'T RECOMMEND DOING THIS IN YOUR GARAGE*
I did it in the garage, and a lift would make it so much easier.
Your going to need the following parts:
Major Parts
STi Intercooler
STi Intake manifold (tgv's would be needed for a 100% swap)
STi turbo, or WRX style turbo
WRX style BOV
Gaskets for UP,DP,Intake manifold,throttlebody,BOV
HOSES
STi or WRX turbo inlet hose (LGT one works, but fitment issues arise)
STi or WRX recirculation hose for BOV. (do need on 100% atmosphere bov's)
Vaccum lines! (Either order most of the STi ones or go to HomeDepot)
STi I/C to throttle body "fitting"
Coolant Lines
STi turbo coolant lines (both inlet and outlet are 1 line. I just modified my stock one)
STi turbo oil feed (again i just modified my existing one)
Stupid little things
CLAMPS! (buy a few in all sizes)
nuts and bolts (the list was huge. Basically the stuff you pull off will work on another part)
PB blaster
Brakeleen
STi intercooler brackets
Removal of old parts: (disconnect battery)
1) Start out removing the engine cover.
2) Remove intercooler. Either w/ or w/o bov
3) Disconnect all visible vaccum lines attached to intake. Also brakets that hold solenoids. (also I would recommend that you use masking tape and mark ALL the lines from where they were connected to. It'll make it easier later) ALSO Disconnect the fuel lines right by the fuse box. There's 2 lines and 1 vent line.
4) Remove bolts that hold the small coolant resevoir on the top of the intake
5) Remove all the bolts that hold the manifold to the tgv's. ALSO there is a bolt that is UNDERNEATH the manifold. It's a 10mm. It holds the fuel lines to the manifold. You'll also need to disconnect the coolant lines that run to the throttle body. Do the bypass at this point if you'd like. LEAVE the Throttle body on the intake though. It's worthless to take it off now.
6) Disconnect the DP and remove. I didn't remove it, but placed it on the side out of the way. WATCH OUT FOR THE O2 sensor!
7) Disconnect turbo from the UP - 3 bolts. Leave the UP on you don't need to remove it. Leave the bolts connected that hold the UP to the block.
8) Disconnect the oil feed line on the top of the turbo. I only disconnected it from the turbo. I bent it out of the way. You don't want to bend it to much, or you'll kink it and have problems.
9) Disconnect the Coolant lines on the side of the turbo. It's going to leak. At this point you would think the turbo is ready to come off, but NO! There's a rubber hose underneath that is the oil return line. I was under the car, and this was a PITA! I was able to unclamp the bottom of the hose clamp with my fingers.
10) Pull off the old turbo!
11) Clean EVERYTHING!
Installation of New parts:
Pretty much you just do this the opposite of how you took everything off using the STi parts
I'll say though, Depending if you get coolant lines for the turbo, or modify the stock ones, put them on the STi turbo while it's off! Also, when you put the turbo on make sure that the rubber hose(oil return line) Is the first thing you make sure is secured.
I used and modified a lot of the legacy items. I was able to make it work, and it will be reliable, however to make this swap easier and with less work involved, order all the STI hoses, lines, fittings, etc.
If you use an USDM intake manifold, you'll need to drill out or slot mill the center holes that run between the intake runners. One of the pics I have show's how it is off.
The intercooler hits the AC line that runs from the firewall to the compressor. I just unbolted the braket and gently bent it ever so slightly. Also when your putting on the intercooler make sure you put the black fitting for the I/C to TB on first. then secure the turbo line.
Make sure everything is connected and start it up. You shouldn't hear any leaks. If you do, turn off the car and recheck. You may need to take the interooler off and check. Heck I had remove the MANIFOLD 4 times before I figured it all out.
Overall thoughts:
I still need to get it tuned, but I spent about $1,000 for everything. If you get all the STi hoses, lines, etc.... you probably looking at about $1,200. Is it worth $200....? That's up to you. It went pretty smoothly. I had an issue with the vaccum lines. I should have marked them when I took them off, but I didn't and I payed for it. I do notice the car is a lot smoother. I'll do an update once I get her protuned.
*Pics*
*I DON'T RECOMMEND DOING THIS IN YOUR GARAGE*
I did it in the garage, and a lift would make it so much easier.
Your going to need the following parts:
Major Parts
STi Intercooler
STi Intake manifold (tgv's would be needed for a 100% swap)
STi turbo, or WRX style turbo
WRX style BOV
Gaskets for UP,DP,Intake manifold,throttlebody,BOV
HOSES
STi or WRX turbo inlet hose (LGT one works, but fitment issues arise)
STi or WRX recirculation hose for BOV. (do need on 100% atmosphere bov's)
Vaccum lines! (Either order most of the STi ones or go to HomeDepot)
STi I/C to throttle body "fitting"
Coolant Lines
STi turbo coolant lines (both inlet and outlet are 1 line. I just modified my stock one)
STi turbo oil feed (again i just modified my existing one)
Stupid little things
CLAMPS! (buy a few in all sizes)
nuts and bolts (the list was huge. Basically the stuff you pull off will work on another part)
PB blaster
Brakeleen
STi intercooler brackets
Removal of old parts: (disconnect battery)
1) Start out removing the engine cover.
2) Remove intercooler. Either w/ or w/o bov
3) Disconnect all visible vaccum lines attached to intake. Also brakets that hold solenoids. (also I would recommend that you use masking tape and mark ALL the lines from where they were connected to. It'll make it easier later) ALSO Disconnect the fuel lines right by the fuse box. There's 2 lines and 1 vent line.
4) Remove bolts that hold the small coolant resevoir on the top of the intake
5) Remove all the bolts that hold the manifold to the tgv's. ALSO there is a bolt that is UNDERNEATH the manifold. It's a 10mm. It holds the fuel lines to the manifold. You'll also need to disconnect the coolant lines that run to the throttle body. Do the bypass at this point if you'd like. LEAVE the Throttle body on the intake though. It's worthless to take it off now.
6) Disconnect the DP and remove. I didn't remove it, but placed it on the side out of the way. WATCH OUT FOR THE O2 sensor!
7) Disconnect turbo from the UP - 3 bolts. Leave the UP on you don't need to remove it. Leave the bolts connected that hold the UP to the block.
8) Disconnect the oil feed line on the top of the turbo. I only disconnected it from the turbo. I bent it out of the way. You don't want to bend it to much, or you'll kink it and have problems.
9) Disconnect the Coolant lines on the side of the turbo. It's going to leak. At this point you would think the turbo is ready to come off, but NO! There's a rubber hose underneath that is the oil return line. I was under the car, and this was a PITA! I was able to unclamp the bottom of the hose clamp with my fingers.
10) Pull off the old turbo!
11) Clean EVERYTHING!
Installation of New parts:
Pretty much you just do this the opposite of how you took everything off using the STi parts
I'll say though, Depending if you get coolant lines for the turbo, or modify the stock ones, put them on the STi turbo while it's off! Also, when you put the turbo on make sure that the rubber hose(oil return line) Is the first thing you make sure is secured.
I used and modified a lot of the legacy items. I was able to make it work, and it will be reliable, however to make this swap easier and with less work involved, order all the STI hoses, lines, fittings, etc.
If you use an USDM intake manifold, you'll need to drill out or slot mill the center holes that run between the intake runners. One of the pics I have show's how it is off.
The intercooler hits the AC line that runs from the firewall to the compressor. I just unbolted the braket and gently bent it ever so slightly. Also when your putting on the intercooler make sure you put the black fitting for the I/C to TB on first. then secure the turbo line.
Make sure everything is connected and start it up. You shouldn't hear any leaks. If you do, turn off the car and recheck. You may need to take the interooler off and check. Heck I had remove the MANIFOLD 4 times before I figured it all out.
Overall thoughts:
I still need to get it tuned, but I spent about $1,000 for everything. If you get all the STi hoses, lines, etc.... you probably looking at about $1,200. Is it worth $200....? That's up to you. It went pretty smoothly. I had an issue with the vaccum lines. I should have marked them when I took them off, but I didn't and I payed for it. I do notice the car is a lot smoother. I'll do an update once I get her protuned.
*Pics*
04-10-2006, 10:48 AM
#28
Originally Posted by Dark Industries
OOOooooo,
any pics anyone?
Six days til the Event, we are on Rain or Shine!!! whats a little water?
and it actually might rain.
any pics anyone?
Six days til the Event, we are on Rain or Shine!!! whats a little water?
and it actually might rain.
Thanks for checking out my ECU.
