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01-25-2010, 12:12 PM
#145
I remember finding the craigslist add for his car.. sent the link to Paul and said half of the listed parts were not even on the car 
That guy is beyond words
Damn it Jack! You made me LOL in the school computer lab and not everyone is looking at me crazy
That guy is beyond words
Damn it Jack! You made me LOL in the school computer lab and not everyone is looking at me crazy
01-25-2010, 06:42 PM
#148
@ Paul@DbTuned: I've only had great recommendations from you and your advice is as good as gold. Saving me money and time.
@ EQ Tuning: The subject matter of the engine or assumption of the ideas surrounding the engine should be questioned and answered. Why would this be a negative and/or inappropriate or unprofessional? All lines of business need to answer questions as they should know the answers to them. This wasn't a question of "Are you stupid to tune a car knowing there is a problem but not figuring out the problem?" because that's an inappropriate question. The question here is of "why did you assume this with your engine, when there wasn't a complete diagnoses of the problem?"
There are other types of advice, too. Besides what Vladi said and "do what the customers want" obviously the customers have trouble allocating their money sometimes.
If there is a problem, you find the solution, or consider the best way to find the solution. Charge someone half price, fix NOTHING and the problem will still exist, and he'll have to fork out money over and waste the money on the whatever tune you just did cuz he'll have to retune after fixing the problem.
There is advice and there is better advice. You just tuned the car for nothing. Whether he really wanted the tune or not, your shop should give better advice instead of "doing what the customer wants" and paving a path toward a solid foundation (fixing the problem where it starts).
I still don't understand the logic of telling someone "You have a problem, we don't know what it is, but because you want the tune so badly, I'll tune it safe around your engine/clutch" putting a bandaid on a wound that needs stitching.
@ EQ Tuning: The subject matter of the engine or assumption of the ideas surrounding the engine should be questioned and answered. Why would this be a negative and/or inappropriate or unprofessional? All lines of business need to answer questions as they should know the answers to them. This wasn't a question of "Are you stupid to tune a car knowing there is a problem but not figuring out the problem?" because that's an inappropriate question. The question here is of "why did you assume this with your engine, when there wasn't a complete diagnoses of the problem?"
There are other types of advice, too. Besides what Vladi said and "do what the customers want" obviously the customers have trouble allocating their money sometimes.
If there is a problem, you find the solution, or consider the best way to find the solution. Charge someone half price, fix NOTHING and the problem will still exist, and he'll have to fork out money over and waste the money on the whatever tune you just did cuz he'll have to retune after fixing the problem.
There is advice and there is better advice. You just tuned the car for nothing. Whether he really wanted the tune or not, your shop should give better advice instead of "doing what the customer wants" and paving a path toward a solid foundation (fixing the problem where it starts).
I still don't understand the logic of telling someone "You have a problem, we don't know what it is, but because you want the tune so badly, I'll tune it safe around your engine/clutch" putting a bandaid on a wound that needs stitching.
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