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Old 03-07-2006 | 10:05 PM
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:rotfl: Yeah, the DH, no hit and run, no stealing, no bunting, no defense, and no fastballs... that's baseball!
oh wtf.. do you not remember BillyBall ???
Old 03-07-2006 | 10:11 PM
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Yeah, Oakland's best hitter of the '90s didn't use steroids. Oh, wait...
I think you are talking about Conseco.. but I still think McGwire was the better hitter.. he was just more injure prone and was never able to string together 162 games in a season
Old 03-07-2006 | 10:39 PM
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Canseco was a lousy hitter after about '89. Thank God he didn't hit 500 homeruns and force the HoF to leave out somebody with that many. Anyways, I meant McGwire.


A's fans shouting about Bonds on steroids =...

Old 03-07-2006 | 10:55 PM
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oh wtf.. do you not remember BillyBall ???
what about CalvinBall?
Old 03-07-2006 | 11:14 PM
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I am not laughing at bonds being on roids, I am laughing at how much he has tried to deny it over and over

and yes.. it will be the same with McGwire if it ever comes out because he did the same song and dance
Old 03-08-2006 | 12:56 AM
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giant fans?


That's what I was thinking :rotfl:
Old 03-08-2006 | 12:58 AM
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P.S. Baseball sucks.

yeah really...


but, GO ROCKIES!!!!
Old 03-08-2006 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
I am not laughing at bonds being on roids, I am laughing at how much he has tried to deny it over and over

and yes.. it will be the same with McGwire if it ever comes out because he did the same song and dance
Just to point out, there is actually evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law that McGwire used performance enhancers while it is all hearsay evidence at this point with Bonds. Which isn't to say he didn't use, just bugs me that this whole thing is accepted fact.

And for the record I want to know why Roger Clemens gets a free pass. His career had hit a wall and then all of a sudden he gets bigger and starts winning Cy Youngs again and nobody says ****. Odd? I think so
Old 03-08-2006 | 08:16 AM
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Just to point out, there is actually evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law that McGwire used performance enhancers while it is all hearsay evidence at this point with Bonds. Which isn't to say he didn't use, just bugs me that this whole thing is accepted fact.

And for the record I want to know why Roger Clemens gets a free pass. His career had hit a wall and then all of a sudden he gets bigger and starts winning Cy Youngs again and nobody says ****. Odd? I think so

what 'facts' are there about McGwire and steroids ?
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He admitted to using andro. Which at the time was just as legal as any other steroid, but thats more hard evidence than anyone has on Bonds.
Old 03-08-2006 | 11:09 AM
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oh lordy.. he took andro .. you can buy andro anywhere.. and its not even proven to actually do anything

that was used as a cover for his bulk up, but common, don't try to tell me that its hard evidence against McGwire .. that logic is as fuzzy as the *** end of a bunny
Old 03-08-2006 | 11:36 AM
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It is hard evidence because Andro will get you the same suspension as any other steroid. There's no fuzz in that logic.
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Old 03-08-2006 | 11:44 AM
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It is hard evidence because Andro will get you the same suspension as any other steroid. There's no fuzz in that logic.
everything was banned.. fine by me

bonds ranted and raved about how he has never used anything before, but there are plenty of 2nd hand accounts of him actually using steroids.. at least McGwire admitted to using something.. although something I don't think that did what he said he did

put a fork in him.. he is a * in the record book along with the others now
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It is hard evidence because Andro will get you the same suspension as any other steroid. There's no fuzz in that logic.

Andro got taken off the shelves about a year or so ago


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