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Old 02-28-2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
where did the fire go on these planes?




and I'm glad that the engine in the plane that hit the pentagon wheren't even heat resistant enough to take the heat from the fuel that is used to make the plane run... since they couldn't find the engines to that plane either...
when a plane is going down they typically bleed fuel to minimize explosive risk on impact. im asuming those flights knew they were in trooble.
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:33 PM
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I didn't think there were actually real live people out there who believe this conspiracy ****...do you guys really hate Bush/Republicans/Conservatives that much to believe a story as far-fetched as some of these crazy theories...
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:34 PM
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I don't see any pentagons in those pictures.


ZOMG YOU FOUND THE MISSING PENTAGON PLANE!!!!!!!
huh? that was sorta my point... these planes left rebel... parts of the planes... the pentagon one left absolutely nothing that resembled a plane....

Originally Posted by irrational x
when a plane is going down they typically bleed fuel to minimize explosive risk on impact. im asuming those flights knew they were in trooble.

Don't you think the engines in the plane would be able to withstand the heat from the fire, especially since they tend to you know use that very same fuel to make the plane fly?
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
when a plane is going down they typically bleed fuel to minimize explosive risk on impact. im asuming those flights knew they were in trooble.
Well that, and slow down in the hopes that there will be some that survive...

Look at what ie left of a car that crashes at 40MPH and then the same car crashing at 120MPH for example...
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
WTC held up better on impact than the pentagon did..... and the fact remains that it should not have been hit at all, but somehow an object the size of a football feild got past and punched 6 equal sized holes on each wall of each rung?
how about this for a change... where's the missile? where's the proof that a missile hit the pentagon? where's the video footage of a missile? where's the explosion that would go along with a missile? how could a missile punch 6 equal sized holes in each wall of each rung? where's the eye witness testimony of a missile screeching through downtown washington? what kind of missile can pass through so many layers of re-enforced concrete and steel intact?
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:38 PM
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Another thing.... missiles DO NOT produce huge, slow fireballs like the one seen in the pentagon videos, its a sharp BANG with a RAPIDLY EXPANDING and fleeting fireball with debris & shrapnel flying everywhere... the pentagon explosion was clearly a FUEL explosion NOT an HE explosion.

Pentagon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJtlkTAjhW0

Bombs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PRvfoTnSA8

This shows interior damage from a bomb... see any fire damage?? i dont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3uB6gIrbXQ
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
Don't you think the engines in the plane would be able to withstand the heat from the fire, especially since they tend to you know use that very same fuel to make the plane fly?

Ever seen a car burn? Notice what happens to aluminum parts, like, uh, cylinder heads, blocks, etc?
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:38 PM
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how about this for a change... where's the missile? where's the proof that a missile hit the pentagon? where's the video footage of a missile? where's the explosion that would go along with a missile? how could a missile punch 6 equal sized holes in each wall of each rung? where's the eye witness testimony of a missile screeching through downtown washington? what kind of missile can pass through so many layers of re-enforced concrete and steel intact?

actually there were eye witnesses that said they saw a missile type device flying overhead before the impact.

I hate to use "Loose Change" to rebut all of my statements, but its in there too
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
huh? that was sorta my point... these planes left rebel... parts of the planes... the pentagon one left absolutely nothing that resembled a plane....
They left rebel?
Don't you think the engines in the plane would be able to withstand the heat from the fire, especially since they tend to you know use that very same fuel to make the plane fly?
A controlled internal burn is not the same as a full speed impact with a solid object followed by an uncontrolled burn. Not to mention all the engineering that goes in to maintaining the temperature of engine parts that goes out the window as soon as the plane crashes, systems fail and burning fuel surrounds the parts from all sides not allowing them to maintain temps within their operating range...
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
Don't you think the engines in the plane would be able to withstand the heat from the fire, especially since they tend to you know use that very same fuel to make the plane fly?
ever heard the difference between controlled combustion and un-controlled combustion? say your house were to burn down due to a hot water heater fire. it's possible that your hot water heater would melt into something un-recognizeable. burned and melted that way by the very same propane that the water heater runs on.
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Furley
Another thing.... missiles DO NOT produce huge, slow fireballs like the one seen in the pentagon videos, its a sharp BANG with a RAPIDLY EXPANDING and fleeting fireball with debris & shrapnel flying everywhere... the pentagon explosion was clearly a FUEL explosion NOT an HE explosion.

Pentagon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJtlkTAjhW0

Bombs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PRvfoTnSA8

This shows interior damage from a bomb... see any fire damage?? i dont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3uB6gIrbXQ
excellent post. too bad i can't watch the video's from work.
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sybir
Ever seen a car burn? Notice what happens to aluminum parts, like, uh, cylinder heads, blocks, etc?
If you need an example, just PM Kostamojen on NASIOC (since he is not allowed to post here anymore) and ask for pix of his old car...
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dz
If you need an example, just PM Kostamojen on NASIOC (since he is not allowed to post here anymore) and ask for pix of his old car...
:rotfl: i was going to use that as an example instead of the hot water heater, but couldn't find the pic.
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
actually there were eye witnesses that said they saw a missile type device flying overhead before the impact.

I hate to use "Loose Change" to rebut all of my statements, but its in there too
Was it the lack of tinfoil hats that prevented the others from seeign it?
Old 02-28-2007 | 02:43 PM
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and more linking to the loose change forums, but its good stuff

missile spotted instead of a plane

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=4683


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