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Old 10-31-2011 | 06:13 PM
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yes i have seen that as well! very cool stuff. i cant wait to see how the ergonomics of the actual device work. its interesting to think about how are they going to design the actual device. whats its going to look like, how is it going to fold out. do you always have to unravel it etc etc. there is hundreds of questions i cant wait to get answered. i just hope that technology comes soon!!

idk if you watched that series on discovery called 2057 a few years ago where they tried to predict what the technology would be like in 50 years. if remember right the phones where attached to the thumb and pointy finger and a virtual screen popped up in between them. now that would be cool

i can go on and on about this stuff

im really impressed with the i phone 4s AI siri. really impressive. cant wait to see that develop and to see droids answer to that.

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Likewise with the integration, I read a lot of SciFi to pass the time and one of the things that look like they're right around the corner are foldable phones. (they already have foldable LED screens that are color), next would be making the whole thing roll-able. Imagine taking something the size of a no.2 pencil and rolling a 10in screen out on a desk .

No I doubt I will, if anything I'd sell my fascinate for 300$ or trade someone who hates one of the newer phones for my phone .
There are some crazy people out there!
Old 11-01-2011 | 12:21 AM
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im liking this as well

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Old 11-02-2011 | 10:54 AM
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^ Now THAT is appealing. I like touch screen but I wish I had a keyboard at times when I'm going to be typing something lengthy up. I like how they integrated it, slim and functional but not ugly and out of place. I <3 Asus.

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yes i have seen that as well! very cool stuff. i cant wait to see how the ergonomics of the actual device work. its interesting to think about how are they going to design the actual device. whats its going to look like, how is it going to fold out. do you always have to unravel it etc etc. there is hundreds of questions i cant wait to get answered. i just hope that technology comes soon!!

idk if you watched that series on discovery called 2057 a few years ago where they tried to predict what the technology would be like in 50 years. if remember right the phones where attached to the thumb and pointy finger and a virtual screen popped up in between them. now that would be cool

i can go on and on about this stuff

im really impressed with the i phone 4s AI siri. really impressive. cant wait to see that develop and to see droids answer to that.
Yes the Siri A-semi I is rather interesting. I was surprised it could interpret what you were asking and reply in kind. Yes I have seen that! They mentioned bio augmentation too, stronger arms and legs haha that would rock!

If I had the money to I'd have a 'smart' house, control everything from a tablet\phone, walk from one room to the ****ter and watch the show\play the game with a monitor built in to the wall.

My interest comes from multiple source integration, computers\phones\pda's where you're able to continue working from one room to the next and not loose anything.

The next few years will be very interesting :-).

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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:26 PM
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glad I can help! I've had lots of time to play around with tablets and things, usually buying/selling/trading just to try a new platform.

you know, after I got the iphone4 in conjuction with my ipad, I have used the tablet less and less - i had a sprint evo 4g (first gen) for a while and used the ipad for all the apps i was using (admittedly, I'd get a different tablet, but the appstore for apple still wins for polished, working apps and huge market support such as Autodesk Autocadd apps which I use regularly). now my tablet is mostly a netflix viewer, a quick way to browse the net w/o turning on my laptop (my mbp is used only a few times a month at most now), and just general 'computing'.

Also my tablet goes everywhere with me - i bought the superthin oem apple folder case and aren't shy to get it scrached (the case) up, so i use it (in my field of construction) daily too. also bought a griffin stylus (highly reccomended) and that makes it even better.

as for phone integration, I don't have a 3g plan for my tablet (and would probably never get one) since i'm already paying for my phone(s) i tether when needed, though i'm 90% around wifi sources anyway; (just food for thought, see how often you're around wifi; if often, get a tab w/o data plan, it'll be great. if not around wifi, consider the phone w/big data package and lapdock) the availabaility of internet-on-the-go is what makes a phone/lapdock appealing, but with tethering and almost always wifi availabilty, i'd rather have a tab separate to take calls while i surf the web...


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wow! you are quite the gadget guru i wish i had more money. thanks for your input man.

that tablet would be nice. at home have the bt keyboard and mouse etc. and just take the tablet everywhere else i go. (thats how i would use it)

now the of the questions im struggling with is finding the pads "place" in my life. and if it has more to offer than a phone with a lapdock.

ok sorry as i take you along my thought process. as far as capabilities and power, resolution etc. the razr and new tabs or more or less the same. with the tab you get a bigger screen. and its always one size. cons its not also a phone. with the razr ie its basically a mini tab that is also a phone. the attachment of peripherals is more or less the same except of the added screen when connection the droid.

when it comes to it, after thinking all of that, big portable tab, no phone. small portable tab that is also a phone.

before i make my decision, i want to try some of these tabs connected to keyboards, mice etc. to see if the ergonomics of the OS are THAT much better than the droid connected to a lapdock or monitor.
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oh i know!! i just hope i have the money to keep up with it all.

its always fun watching movies that are set in the future. seeing there interpretation of "technology" in set year. just watched in time last night. interesting concept but the movie was a little cheesy. love those kind of movies though.

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^ Now THAT is appealing. I like touch screen but I wish I had a keyboard at times when I'm going to be typing something lengthy up. I like how they integrated it, slim and functional but not ugly and out of place. I <3 Asus.



Yes the Siri A-semi I is rather interesting. I was surprised it could interpret what you were asking and reply in kind. Yes I have seen that! They mentioned bio augmentation too, stronger arms and legs haha that would rock!

If I had the money to I'd have a 'smart' house, control everything from a tablet\phone, walk from one room to the ****ter and watch the show\play the game with a monitor built in to the wall.

My interest comes from multiple source integration, computers\phones\pda's where you're able to continue working from one room to the next and not loose anything.

The next few years will be very interesting :-).
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VERY good points to consider. thank you. MAN this is alot to think about. seems like if i get an i phone or i pad i should get get the other so they can work in conjunction. can droid and regular tabs to the same thing?

thank you for all your input and advice.

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glad I can help! I've had lots of time to play around with tablets and things, usually buying/selling/trading just to try a new platform.

you know, after I got the iphone4 in conjuction with my ipad, I have used the tablet less and less - i had a sprint evo 4g (first gen) for a while and used the ipad for all the apps i was using (admittedly, I'd get a different tablet, but the appstore for apple still wins for polished, working apps and huge market support such as Autodesk Autocadd apps which I use regularly). now my tablet is mostly a netflix viewer, a quick way to browse the net w/o turning on my laptop (my mbp is used only a few times a month at most now), and just general 'computing'.

Also my tablet goes everywhere with me - i bought the superthin oem apple folder case and aren't shy to get it scrached (the case) up, so i use it (in my field of construction) daily too. also bought a griffin stylus (highly reccomended) and that makes it even better.

as for phone integration, I don't have a 3g plan for my tablet (and would probably never get one) since i'm already paying for my phone(s) i tether when needed, though i'm 90% around wifi sources anyway; (just food for thought, see how often you're around wifi; if often, get a tab w/o data plan, it'll be great. if not around wifi, consider the phone w/big data package and lapdock) the availabaility of internet-on-the-go is what makes a phone/lapdock appealing, but with tethering and almost always wifi availabilty, i'd rather have a tab separate to take calls while i surf the web...


Old 11-04-2011 | 10:13 PM
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you should check out Android & Windows Phone: Tablets, Apps, & ROMs @ xda-developers and see what people have to say about the android and/or windows 7 based phones and tablets you are interested in. lots of resources there. I use that site to keep up to date with the latest ROMS and kernals for my Motorola atrix. it's rooted, unlocked, and overclocked
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i have never hacked/rooted any of my phones yet. kinda scared to even try. but if i do get the droid lapdock combo id be interested in doing it. ive been told you can torrent things with your phone. so ill have to look into that more.
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I work in IT.. Have an Eee pad transformer and Atrix.. Have had or currently use both iPads, iPhones, etc etc.. Have several laptops from netbooks through sumo sized..

At their current state - no tablet OS is at a point where it would be a serious replacement for a computer. No matter what - you will need a computer somewhere...

Windows 8 will probably change that.. Google won't..
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but what exactly will you need a computer for? i guess it just depends on the user. and what they intend to use it for.

what do you know about windows 8?
Old 11-14-2011 | 10:13 AM
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but what exactly will you need a computer for? i guess it just depends on the user. and what they intend to use it for.

what do you know about windows 8?
Exactly, or at least close.

For the most part the only thing that the tablet OS creators need to do is make it easier to 'drag n drop' to other OS file shares. If they did that there would be no use for a laptop as you could carry something that weighs 1\8th as much and do everything or just about everything.
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If you do anything beyond browsing the web.. So think about any applications you might use... You won't be able to seriously edit photos. videos.. etc.. iOS devices are limited severely on document editing.. Apple feels you should only be able to "touch up" documents and that you should buy a macbook if you want to edit..

Document editing on android OS is only slightly better.

Now if all you do is browse the internet and play - then go for it.. But even tasks like storing photos from digital cameras will become more cumbersome..

I do or have owned just about everything.. And away from work a tablet can do maybe 75% of what I need (And I carry one around daily).. But occasionally (few times a week) I just have to have a computer.. Hell even certain websites won't work on any current tablet OS.. Can get pretty sticky when it comes to online forms.. Shopping carts.. Govt. websites and online forms..

The iOS based devices would be your worst choice as Apple purposefully limits their capability (by limiting developers and what can be developed on the platform) so as to not damage macbook sales..

Android is a bit better - but still no replacement for a PC.

And remember - these things are running on fairly puny processors when compared to a full blown computer.. That is pretty limiting as well..

Windows 8 is being targeted primarily as a Tablet based operating system that can be scaled to most devices from computers down to tablets. We'll see how it goes - but it promises to bring tablet based computing into a more serious arena when it comes to application development.. As of right now - tablet apps are mostly games and toys.. There are some pretty neat productivity tools and whatnot available - but they just aren't at the level of serious desktop apps..
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Originally Posted by Hoofus
Exactly, or at least close.

For the most part the only thing that the tablet OS creators need to do is make it easier to 'drag n drop' to other OS file shares. If they did that there would be no use for a laptop as you could carry something that weighs 1\8th as much and do everything or just about everything.
Simple on the Android OS.. SMB based file sharing is supported by every major operating system now.. MacOS has native support.. Linux via Samba..(And windows of course has native support)

Apple iOS has apps if you are willing to jailbreak - But really apple just wants you to start paying for cloud based file sharing.. And apple does NOT want to give up root file access on iOS devices.. So it will never happen.

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Old 11-14-2011 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bouncer
Simple on the Android OS.. SMB based file sharing is supported by every major operating system now.. MacOS has native support.. Linux via Samba..(And windows of course has native support)

Apple iOS has apps if you are willing to jailbreak - But really apple just wants you to start paying for cloud based file sharing.. And apple does NOT want to give up root file access on iOS devices.. So it will never happen.
Wonder if you can set up a home based hot spot via wireless using linux as an intermediary between Aos and Winsuck.

I don't see why not as you can transfer files directly from a linux based os to a windows based os, I don't see a reason why linux wouldn't like android.
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No im saying it all works fine.. SMB works on all plaforms.. I use file sharing between windows and mac os on my android tablet almost daily.. It already works via SMB..

It just apple that limits you on a non jailbroken device..

That still doesnt solve the problem that serious applications are developed for desktop operating systems.. Not tablet OS's.. So if you use your computer for serious work related stuff - you are going to be basically stuck.. Or if you use it for heavier photo or video editing or the like you are hosed.. Plus the dinky processor in tablets is way way underpowered to handle serious tasks like that..

Hence Windows 8.. Could bridge the gap and allow software developed for desktop environments to run on tablets..


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