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Old 12-16-2006 | 04:25 PM
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calling i-club health nuts: input pls

ok heres the deal. lately ive been pakcing on the weight faster than sally struthers at a vegas buffe, so its time to start dealing with it. i want some input of the people that do/have done all this crap (gt35, ra88it, ect ect).

the last time i was seriously in shape was in highschool football, but then i got mono, dropepd to almost 135 from 180 and had to start pushing 5k calories a day.

the basic goal is to drop weight. im currently at 198 and i want to be closer to 180 before i start bulking up again in the weight room. my old routine went pretty well but i plateau'd, then got hurt and never fully got back into it.

old plan was mon-thurs. 45 minutes on the bike with 190 target heartrate, short freeweight workout, followed by a swim for 30 minutes.

currently im at about 85% of my old caloric intake over past few months, and im not drinking or smoking. im eating foods high in dietary fiber (kasha, brown rice), lots of greens, and lean chicken. im sick right now, so no sugar or dairy. ive also started doing portion control and shrank my stomache a bit so i cnat pack it away like i could not to long ago.

theres 2 wrenchs in the works though: i have kidney problems so i cant take many supplaments beside protein powder, and i get physically ill if i dont eat enough protein in a day (it ****ing sucks).

basically i need a good plan, prefferably with egg/whey protein in the AM and avoiding red meat, thats not as hardcore as my old one which was:

shake for breakfast
chicken and rice for lunch
8oz of redmeat and salad at dinner
nectarine 2hrs after each meal

i like veggies so thats not a problem, i just need a plan that will work well. also the time line is kinda rigid, im getting some term life insurance soon and its gona require a physical... lets get my rates low.


input plz
Old 12-16-2006 | 04:35 PM
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dropping weight is easy(er said than done), simply burn more calories than you take in, thats the main part, combine that with the right diet(your probably going to have to experiment with that) and youll see better results.. the only problem with that is commitment, you have to stick to your guns and push forward.. i would do a combo of eating less calories, eating lotsa greens, protein can only help, so keep on the protein and just kick *** at the gym
Old 12-16-2006 | 05:05 PM
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Do you wanna try to keep the muscle you have currently, or just lose all the weight as quick as possible then worry about muscle later?

im sure matt has told you, but this forum is seriously the best damn info you can find about anything pretty much

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/index.php
Old 12-16-2006 | 05:11 PM
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eat healthy.

do cardio EVERY DAY

lift weights if you care about keeping the muscle you have now but dont plan on gaining any.

ive lost 35 pounds in the last 2.5 months. my cardio of choice is running. ive done 30 miles in the last 6 days (ive run every day for as long as i can remember since i started this). and i go to the gym 5 days a week to try and minimize the muscle lose assosiated with losing a lot of weight.

the hardest part is dedication. if you have the will power, you can do it.

good luck man!
Old 12-16-2006 | 05:25 PM
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word... as long as you stay dedicated on a diet(have a cheater day... trusstt mee it will make the difference between continueing and quiting) and the gym... the fat loss will follow, simple as that...

I have a friend who has lost over 50 lbs and is about to break down into the 190's!!! he use to weight over 250! He hasn't even been doing it for that long either, all he does is cardio and eat better, he still eats subway and what not too(minus the high calorie stuff)
Old 12-16-2006 | 09:53 PM
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If you're serious about getting in shape and eating well. Check here for great info. www.crossfit.com The zone diet will get you squared away. Go to the message board there and do a search on zone. They're workout out are complete body excersises and will do so much more than running or "cardio".

Eating less calories than you burn in a day is easier than burning more calories than you eat, if ya know what I mean.
Old 12-16-2006 | 10:50 PM
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If you have kidney issues, maybe it would be a good idea to talk to a professional nutritionist/dietitian instead of asking on a Subaru forum.
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**** that we are experts!
Old 12-16-2006 | 10:55 PM
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^^^ You make a good point.
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^^^ You make a good point.

when do I ever not have a good point...
Old 12-16-2006 | 11:04 PM
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^^^ That's a good point.
Old 12-16-2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
45 minutes on the bike with 190 target heartrate
thats a high target heart rate.
Old 12-17-2006 | 01:20 AM
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If you want to lose weight, try to stay in the 65-70 percent max heart rate. You'll burn the most fat there.
Old 12-17-2006 | 12:51 PM
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The fat burning zone has been debunked years ago.

Here's a good article that shows how limiting your diet is the key to weight loss not trying to burn off calories through excersize.
http://www.crestfitness.com/shownews.php?id=14

Besides high intensity excersize offers more in regards to changing metabolism and body composition. Do a search on Sprint 8 or tabata excersises. The problem is people don't want to work hard to lose weight. But that is how you get real results.
Old 12-18-2006 | 12:32 AM
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If you have kidney issues, take supplements like saw palmetto and milk thistle. Go to your local fitness products store and ask about those supplements. Also you should drink lots of cranberry juice to help clean out your kidneys.

I use to weigh 198lbs in August and today I way about 161. Keep eating what your eating but before you do that, make sure you drink 1/2 bottle of water or 1 cup of water before you eat. Drink on water all day so you can flush your body continuously. Think of it this way: Say you have a cup of tea, and you keep pouring water in that same cup, eventually the tea will get lighter in color until it is clear. You want you body to be clear of all the unwanted waste. Have a cheat day; it helps so you don't crave throughout the week. When you do cardio make sure you are in the heart beats per minute zone according to your age group that will efficiently burn fat the most. For example, I'm 26, my heart beat per minute should be around 127 to 131, anything more is cardio, anything less, and I’m not working hard enough. Always remember, you don't start burning fat until after 20 minutes.

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P.S. Go search www.bodybuilding.com forums section. This site should definitely help you out!



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