California Atty General Sues Car Makers over Global Warming
09-20-2006, 03:59 PM
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the smug levels are rising!!!!! as long as George Clooney doesnt have any award speaches to make anytime soon we should be fine....... for now anyways......
09-20-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
And we don't need to ban SUVs. We just need to smack everyone who owns one in the back of the head for being a douche.
09-20-2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Will
And vans are way better than SUV's, right?
So you're suggesting hypocrisy on my part because I owned a minivan, yes? Well, when I no longer needed it, I sold it. Later this summer I bought my dad's 4x4 pickup so I could sell my Miata without having to wait for a deal to come along on a Subaru- now I no longer need it so it will be sold tomorrow evening. The point is, people who need SUVs are perfectly entitled to them- but my definition of need is a little more stringent than that of most people who own them.
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09-20-2006, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
How many people buy minivans because they are cool? Chances are people driving one, need it.
So you're suggesting hypocrisy on my part because I owned a minivan, yes? Well, when I no longer needed it, I sold it. Later this summer I bought my dad's 4x4 pickup so I could sell my Miata without having to wait for a deal to come along on a Subaru- now I no longer need it so it will be sold tomorrow evening. The point is, people who need SUVs are perfectly entitled to them- but my definition of need is a little more stringent than that of most people who own them.
So you're suggesting hypocrisy on my part because I owned a minivan, yes? Well, when I no longer needed it, I sold it. Later this summer I bought my dad's 4x4 pickup so I could sell my Miata without having to wait for a deal to come along on a Subaru- now I no longer need it so it will be sold tomorrow evening. The point is, people who need SUVs are perfectly entitled to them- but my definition of need is a little more stringent than that of most people who own them.
What do you plan to get after selling the 4x4?
09-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by newyorkreload
Only if it has a full size bed in the back and a "don't come knocking..." bumper sticker.
09-20-2006, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
The best part is that using your hands isn't what makes cell phones unsafe. The distraction of the conversation and the result of your focus being somewhere other than not killing people in your land yacht is.
09-20-2006, 07:56 PM
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I'm liberal, and I am aware of how retarded it is to blame pollution on automobile manufacturers, because I also know how economics work. It just annoys me every time I see someone say or do something stupid in politics, and people have to lump huge groups of people who have generally similar political views into the same short bus.
09-20-2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chri5
Exactly. I'm in the freaking Green Party, and I know this is idiotic.
09-20-2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Same reason it's stupid to sue GM over pollution; it's not their fault that we consumers are demanding these products in such numbers. the one good thing I keep hoping will come from conservative administrations is more nuclear power, and it keeps not happening. Increased domestic oil production is a much wiser course of action apparently...
As for nuclear power, it's economics. It just costs way too much to build and maintain a nuke plant as opposed to traditional gas/coal fired units. Then you add in the stigma from Three Mile Island and all the hippy propaganda and your average citizen won't support a new plant. It's very frustrating for someone such as myself who studied Powerplant Technology to make a logical argument to some average joe who has no idea how a nuke plant works, yet is an "expert" on all of the bad things it is going to do to him and the environment.
09-20-2006, 11:52 PM
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Yeah, it would be different if environmentalists were just harping about the possibilities of catastrophic meltdown, because aside from that, there is no pollution fron nuke plants. But you are definitely right about the economics. I hadn't considered that very thoroughly yet.
09-20-2006, 11:53 PM
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Oh, and why isn't anybody building their reactors underground? 
Wouldn;t that go REALLY far towards mitigating most of the environmental hazrd from a meltdown?
Wouldn;t that go REALLY far towards mitigating most of the environmental hazrd from a meltdown?
09-21-2006, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Oh, and why isn't anybody building their reactors underground? Wouldn;t that go REALLY far towards mitigating most of the environmental hazrd from a meltdown?
Wouldn;t that go REALLY far towards mitigating most of the environmental hazrd from a meltdown?You gotta think about the water table.
