What I have here is a petition to stop the harassment that law enforcement is doing in the state of California. If you're tired of the modified exhaust ticket being issued without proper decibel reading equipment or just plain tired of being pulled over for anything BS ,I present you this petition that I found.

http://www.petitiononline.com/AH4G63/petition.html

 

Yeah, that and about $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks...

 

Can't hurt though.

 

i've never heard of those online petions on that site ever making a diff...

if it's on the CA.gov site it might actually influence somebody.

if you want to really make a difference comtact all the state congress and senate members & the gov'r office...
calls make the biggest impact, but writting a formal letter and sending it in is also adequate.

most of them have websites you can send in your personal petition for removal as well.

but take note...letters like "why are you guys so stoopid?!?!? i hate CA! blah, blah blagh.." aren't the way to make an impact.

and stuff like"(many times ill trained and under informed)" in RE: to law enforcement won't go over well at the capitol.



brush up on your writting skills and grammer and write it right!

all the contact #'s are avail online at www.ca.gov or in the front of every phonebook in thee gov't section.

 

But it can generate more spam email in your account...

What weight do you think that Dave Ko carries with the state or any governing agency? What group does he represent Hell it could even be the "mad tyte street racerz krew" for all you or anyone else that views this steaming pile of online crap knows.

If you want to accomplish something like this use a forum that may actually be seen by the powers that be like calling/contacting your state reps or going through an established body that actually has their foot in the door like SEMA for example.

Things like this do more to hurt the cause than they do to help it because people sign this and think "I've done my part" and do not go through the proper chanels.

How do you think your CO's would have responded to an online petition to let you sleep an extra 1/2 hour when you were in the service? This survey will go about as far as that would have.

The very foundation of this petition is all wrong. An officer that pulls you over has every right to inspect your vehicle according to the law.


To: Dave Ko
The fact of the matter is that most modifications are illegal in CA so how can someone that has the mods be unfairly targeted? We all take our chances each time we mod our cars and we all know it.
Not true, I have been hit by a raised truck before - the bumper damn near ripped my roof off and if anyone had been in the passenger seat they probably would have died. I am protected and served every time one of these vehicles is cited. My old house backed up to Fair Oaks Blvd in Citrus Heights, every time a car was cited for illegal exhaust, again I was protected and served. I have no problem with most loud exhausts, but some of them are way over the top and should be cited.
I am all for profiling, and if I get busted for illegal mods on the car I decide to drive so be it - I broke the law. Sure it sucks but that is life.
The law gives the officer the room to say "I think that is too loud - go get it tested" if you do not liek that, change the law do not petition the officer not to enforce what is on the books.
Good, something I can agree with.
Other than having illegal parts on the car - that can be a moving violation in and of itself.
Again, change the law if you have a problem with it. This is not a petition to change the law, it is a petition to not enforce the law. That goes against what the police are supposed to do doesn't it?
Then use that disposable income to get a law put in place or changed instead of this gaywad hippy hug fest of a petition.
Again, write a bill and get it on the ballot with all of your disposable income.
But it is a reasonable cause to pull someone over according to the letter of the law. And again if you do not like it, work to change it. The law does not require the officer to test the DB levels of an exhaust, they are asked to use their judgement and make the call to send the car in for testing.
That would work against many since you would no longer have the option to swap out your exhaust before getting tested. Also what happens if a big rig drives by and operated the jake brake as the test is being conducted? That would make a stock exhaust appear illegal and you would have little recourse in front of a judge. The tests are conducted in a controlled environment for a reason.
But is it? Just because there is a DB limit does not make it legal to increase your car's noise level to that point for no reason other than to make more noise.
You pay to play, you just want a cheaper game? I thought you had all kinds of disposable income...
Cry me a river. Prove that the officer profiled you - good luck with that one. The fact stands that you get more attention when you make certain modifications and now you are *****ing about the attention you wanted to begin with?
I think they are qualified to make assessments. Hey look this car has no cats - that is an emissions violation. Hey look this car has a BOV - that is an emissions violation.
Again, put it on the ballot. I would vote for it...

 

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Ali G. dz is so serious. :rotfl:

 

Maybe you should go to petitions.com and start a petition to return Ali G to I-Club. I bet it would go just as far as the steaming pile at the top of this thread. :rotfl:

 

For those of you who dont think anything will help in California or other states. Read this then:

http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=53113

 

awesome!

 

no one said "anything" wouldn't help...just not an ill written online petition.

SEMA has done a lot of good in changing legislation for the benifit of enthusiests in CA and across the nation. These are the people to contact to find out how to write a formal complaint without sounding like you're a highschool kid.

also contacting the state legislation as I stated above is also an excellent way to be heard and make a difference.

so get to writting!

 

SEMA was also behind the state's current program to have exhaust noise violations tested by the ref. Prior to that you would have to find someone to test the exhaust at your cost and bring that report to court with you and hope that the judge accepted it. It was cheaper to just pay the fine and be done with it...

 

Seriously man? You have to pay someone to test it then bring it to court? Man that freakin bites!! Say you do test it though and you get pulled over again, do you have an exempt card or something else that proves your mod is perfectly legal? This stuff gets more complicated!

 

Info on the SEMA involvement with the current test program:

WASHINGTON (Sept. 19, 2002) - Thanks to a new SEMA-sponsored law, California automobile hobbyists are now better equipped to fight unfair exhaust noise citations issued by state law enforcement officers. Legislation recently signed into law by Governor Gray Davis to provide for a statewide exhaust noise testing program will allow motorists to prove they comply with state noise standards.

The new law requires smog check stations that provide referee functions to perform the test. These referee stations will issue certificates of compliance for vehicles when tests of their exhaust systems demonstrate that they emit no more than 95-decibels, under Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) test procedure J1169. Only those vehicles that have received a citation for an exhaust noise violation will be permitted to submit their vehicle for the test.

The law also allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued. Fees charged to motorists for the certificates of compliance will pay for the testing program.

"The new law forces compliance with an objectively measured standard in a fair and predictable test. Through this procedure, motorists who drive vehicles legally equipped with modified exhaust systems can confirm that they comply with California's exhaust noise standards," said SEMA Director of Government Affairs Steve McDonald. "For years, the enforcement policy used by police officers deemed nearly all exhaust system modifications illegal, even where the noise levels were not excessive or unusual. That policy left exhaust system manufacturers, dealers and their customers without recourse."

Last year, Governor Davis signed into law another SEMA-sponsored bill to compel law enforcement officials to tie exhaust system noise citations to the 95-decibel limit and to make clear that aftermarket modified exhaust systems are legal if they comply with the standard. However, exhaust noise citations were still primarily prosecuted solely based on the officer's subjective judgment. The new law should go far toward improving motorists' odds of beating the ticket in court.

"Motorists who modify their vehicles for durability, appearance and performance prefer aftermarket exhaust systems," McDonald added. "By establishing this evenhanded testing process, this law will serve to benefit consumers who favor these state-of-the-art products, the aftermarket industry which markets them and even police officers who are charged with enforcing the law."

SEMA, the Specialty Equipment Market Association, represents the $26 billion specialty automotive industry. The trade association has approximately 4,500 member companies. It is the authoritative source of research data, trends and market growth information for automakers and the specialty auto products industry. The industry provides appearance, performance, comfort, convenience and technology products for passenger cars, minivans, trucks, SUVs and recreational vehicles.






SEMA-sponsored legislation (S.B. 1420) to provide for a vehicle exhaust noise-testing program has been sent to California Governor Gray Davis for his signature. If signed by the Governor, the bill will become law. The bill authorizes Smog Check referee stations to issue certificates of compliance for vehicles when tests of their exhaust systems demonstrate that the systems emit no more than 95-decibels under SAE test procedure J1169. The bill also allows courts to dismiss citations for compliant exhaust systems.

S.B. 1420 would force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels in a fair and predictable test.

S.B. 1420 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.

S.B. 1420 would provide motorists who drive vehicles legally equipped with modified exhaust systems the ability to prove that they comply with the law. Overwhelming evidence shows that many of these citations are being written in absence of any violation of the code.

S.B. 1420 would help remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which exhaust noise citations are prosecuted solely based on the officer's subjective judgment.

 

You would have had to in the past. I got 2 tickets in an old Accord that had a very quiet exhaust on it in the mid 90's. I paid both tickets because the cost of both tickets would have been less than getting the exhaust tested which was not a guarantee that the case would have been dismissed.

 

Cool, thanks for the info bro I appreciate it. I guess some of my friends were right. They were telling the same thing about just paying the fix it tickets because its less of a hassle *shrugs* what to do.... what to do.....