2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Announced!
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Evo and WRX
Check the link below.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...207scc_versus/
While not an STi it is a very modified WRX. EVO won, but the new STi is a different beast.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...207scc_versus/
While not an STi it is a very modified WRX. EVO won, but the new STi is a different beast.
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That doesn't apply to this debate at all. Your taking a European version EVO VII and putting it up against a lightly modified WRX (don't care what they say, that car is not highly modified and not near the STI - sorry guys). The European EVO has the ACD and AYC, which the US model doesnt. Plus the US models are the new EVO VIII and a completely redesigned STI. Even then they kept commenting that the WRX is funner to drive. I want to see them do a showdown on the US market cars stat. Someone throw down the gauntlet and then we'll see who emerges victorious.
#109
Originally posted by technik
Here is a link for you all. Specs and pricing. Keep in mind pricing is in the Japanese Yen.
http://www.japanvehicles.com/newcars...model/main.htm
Enjoy fighting amongst yourselves to figure out what the price is going to be. lol....
Here is a link for you all. Specs and pricing. Keep in mind pricing is in the Japanese Yen.
http://www.japanvehicles.com/newcars...model/main.htm
Enjoy fighting amongst yourselves to figure out what the price is going to be. lol....
That's for a WRX STi with the electronic gadgets, HIDs, and 17" wheels.
I'm new to the Rex and Evo cars, but I'm seriously considering both as my next vehicle. We need a second "family" car -- we currently have an S4 Avant and my Mk4 GTI VR6, which has been a fun car, too. :P Both the STi and Evo have 4 doors, so there's a qualifier!
I'm just beginning to learn about aftermarket availability for both, but I don't think that will be a major deciding factor for me. Both will be tuner-friendly. Gotta see & drive each one to make an informed decision... Just gotta wait...
#111
Originally posted by cobraKLR
No STI has ever beat an EVO? Gotta disagree with that. Have you ever heard of the WRC. That is extreme mods at its finest. And yes the STI has beaten the EVO there many times
No STI has ever beat an EVO? Gotta disagree with that. Have you ever heard of the WRC. That is extreme mods at its finest. And yes the STI has beaten the EVO there many times
In WRC, it's more of a driver's competiton than a manufacturer's competition. The environment isn't exactly controlled because you can disintegrate tires, break transmissions, fall off cliffs, etc. -- all of those tend to slow you down. Plus, you can't memorize a rally course like you can a smooth, closed track. If the STi beat the Evo, it was largely due to the driver being better and (to an extent) having more luck at the time of the race. Same thing goes if the Evo beat the STi. Speaking of WRC, those Peugeot 206's have been doing pretty well, ey?
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True there are many variables so it is hard to say. Over the past few years the STI has traditionally performed better than the EVO - taking into account the entire season. Also, it's been awhile since there has been a driver wearing Red on the podium.
As for the Pug 206 - man I have gotta agree with you there. That car is crazy, 500+ ft/lbs of torque - that's more than any american V8 light truck diesel makes. I wouldn't mind seeing the 206 come over as well, although from what I understand it is more like the US Lancer (non-EVO) in Europe. And Marcus Gronholm has been driving like he is possessed. Too bad Richard Burns had to switch teams - Burns, Solberg, and Macanen would have been a hell of a team to watch.
As for the Pug 206 - man I have gotta agree with you there. That car is crazy, 500+ ft/lbs of torque - that's more than any american V8 light truck diesel makes. I wouldn't mind seeing the 206 come over as well, although from what I understand it is more like the US Lancer (non-EVO) in Europe. And Marcus Gronholm has been driving like he is possessed. Too bad Richard Burns had to switch teams - Burns, Solberg, and Macanen would have been a hell of a team to watch.
#113
Originally posted by cobraKLR
The 402,000 yen model is more in line with the US model. This still dosen't apply because the motors are different (JDM is 2.0L) and you have to consider the cost of overseas shipping, etc.
The 402,000 yen model is more in line with the US model. This still dosen't apply because the motors are different (JDM is 2.0L) and you have to consider the cost of overseas shipping, etc.
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Peace out...
Originally posted by Cabal
An EVO VII versus a modified WRX doesn't say much about a US EVO 8 versus an STi.
An EVO VII versus a modified WRX doesn't say much about a US EVO 8 versus an STi.
The JDM STi is way better than the article's modified WRX, and the VIII is better than the VII. (apples to apples? nah, but the trend was set.)
That all being said - The US STi will *eat* the EVO in all markets. (And most other autos... Including the Mustang I have in the garage with 20k in mods. ) I will be dumping the WRX I currently own for it.
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Re: Peace out...
Originally posted by meridock
The JDM STi is way better than the article's modified WRX, and the VIII is better than the VII. (apples to apples? nah, but the trend was set.)
The JDM STi is way better than the article's modified WRX, and the VIII is better than the VII. (apples to apples? nah, but the trend was set.)
the viii has less hp, lacks ayc and acd,
and has the ricey altezza lights....
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well sti is a great car but handling wise i will prefer the wrx... just like many japanese tuners... they prefer the WRX becasue it is a basic car rather than a manufacture modified car... this way the customer and make the choices rather than the manufacture... EX. i think the suspension that comes with the STi is SHyt... i would prefer choosing my own such as Tein or JIC... with a WRX u have that choice but with an STi do u really want to spend more money of modifying it when u paid like 10000-12000 more than the WRX... coz i am sure that with 10000-12000 to modify the WRX it will be faster and have better performance than the STi
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Hey everyone, new here and I joined cuz I might be trading in my e36 m3 for the new wrx sti and need some info to make my decision.
Ne one think the dealers will be charging msrp for the sti or will they mark it up due to the demand?? Also what's the main difference between the wrx sti spec c and the regular wrx sti? And will the usdm see the spec c possibly as a 2005 model? Also another concern of mine is that I heard that subaru techs and service is not too good, so what do you peeps that already own a subaru think of their service(I know every dealership will be different but whats the general concensus on their level of service)??
Thanks
Ne one think the dealers will be charging msrp for the sti or will they mark it up due to the demand?? Also what's the main difference between the wrx sti spec c and the regular wrx sti? And will the usdm see the spec c possibly as a 2005 model? Also another concern of mine is that I heard that subaru techs and service is not too good, so what do you peeps that already own a subaru think of their service(I know every dealership will be different but whats the general concensus on their level of service)??
Thanks
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Originally posted by WoRX
..............Remember, it's a sub compact.
I'm cheap? No, my friend, it is Subaru that is cheap. I know my cars and I know what is available in this price range. I'm here to tell you that the WRX lacks in amenities. The STI even more so. Heck, they don't even include a stereo for that price in the STi. And, they try to wash that away by saying they are trying to save weight. Ha! Try a smaller bat wing on the rear.
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..............Remember, it's a sub compact.
I'm cheap? No, my friend, it is Subaru that is cheap. I know my cars and I know what is available in this price range. I'm here to tell you that the WRX lacks in amenities. The STI even more so. Heck, they don't even include a stereo for that price in the STi. And, they try to wash that away by saying they are trying to save weight. Ha! Try a smaller bat wing on the rear.
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