Why did the AMS tunning thread get deleted?
10-08-2009, 11:41 AM
#32
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didnt you know you would have failed? i think you tried to tune before (with someone else) and they told you all your problems before...should have fixed it before retuning.
I now need to find someone who can look at my boost controller, fuel pressure regulator, and wide band. None of which where working properly when i got there. Anyone have suggestions?
10-08-2009, 02:02 PM
#33
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so when i went to the tune this weekend i at least knew i had someone who knows what they are talking about
10-08-2009, 03:14 PM
#34
The tuner your talking about has tuned my car and a few others that don't post here often. He is a really smart guy and if he still posted on this forum he would give a very detailed explanation on what went on with your car when he tried to tune it. I'm just saying there are two sides to every story.
This is not meant towards you but to everyone that is into modifying their cars.
The problem is to many people don't check and re-check their cars prior a tune. Along with a few maintenance steps the vehicle owner should take before throwing it on a dyno and doing X amount of WOT pulls since this can lead to a catastrophic event. Especially if the tuner is from out of state and your running on limited time. Taking these measures will insure that when it comes time for the vehicle to be tune the chances of a mechanical problem will be "slim". I have made this mistake before so I am guilty of this too. The best thing is to learn from it and get it ready for next time.
I also heard AMS is coming out in December is this true ****?
This is not meant towards you but to everyone that is into modifying their cars.
The problem is to many people don't check and re-check their cars prior a tune. Along with a few maintenance steps the vehicle owner should take before throwing it on a dyno and doing X amount of WOT pulls since this can lead to a catastrophic event. Especially if the tuner is from out of state and your running on limited time. Taking these measures will insure that when it comes time for the vehicle to be tune the chances of a mechanical problem will be "slim". I have made this mistake before so I am guilty of this too. The best thing is to learn from it and get it ready for next time.
I also heard AMS is coming out in December is this true ****?
10-08-2009, 07:40 PM
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The tuner your talking about has tuned my car and a few others that don't post here often. He is a really smart guy and if he still posted on this forum he would give a very detailed explanation on what went on with your car when he tried to tune it. I'm just saying there are two sides to every story.
This is not meant towards you but to everyone that is into modifying their cars.
The problem is to many people don't check and re-check their cars prior a tune. Along with a few maintenance steps the vehicle owner should take before throwing it on a dyno and doing X amount of WOT pulls since this can lead to a catastrophic event. Especially if the tuner is from out of state and your running on limited time. Taking these measures will insure that when it comes time for the vehicle to be tune the chances of a mechanical problem will be "slim". I have made this mistake before so I am guilty of this too. The best thing is to learn from it and get it ready for next time.
I also heard AMS is coming out in December is this true ****?
This is not meant towards you but to everyone that is into modifying their cars.
The problem is to many people don't check and re-check their cars prior a tune. Along with a few maintenance steps the vehicle owner should take before throwing it on a dyno and doing X amount of WOT pulls since this can lead to a catastrophic event. Especially if the tuner is from out of state and your running on limited time. Taking these measures will insure that when it comes time for the vehicle to be tune the chances of a mechanical problem will be "slim". I have made this mistake before so I am guilty of this too. The best thing is to learn from it and get it ready for next time.
I also heard AMS is coming out in December is this true ****?
Other then the boost controller being possibly bad there wasnt any indication of the other 2 being bad
10-08-2009, 07:55 PM
#38
I think he plans on posting here to give you a better explanation of what happen that day since he said he really didn't get a chance to talk to you about the issue.
10-08-2009, 08:35 PM
#39
Originally Posted by Tuner
When we tried to raise the boost in your car, it didn’t seem as though the solenoid was working and that took up most of our time. We actually spent a few hours tracing the wiring because we didn’t install the controller and didn’t know what was going on. All the parts were new, so we honestly assumed that it was installation related.
Then we installed an MBC to verify if your turbo was working properly (so we eliminated that as a cause) and sure enough, boost shot to 15psi from 7psi.. So we then did a leak test to verify that everything was leak free in your system, and we found a few small ones but nothing major. Mind you I wasn’t there to troubleshoot all of that. So we did a lot of troubleshooting for you.
I spent a small amount of time trying to dial in a safe air/fuel ratio on the street, as I was having to use a different injector scalar and deadtime than the one printed on your injector sheet. I didn’t say that the injectors didn’t feel like 850s. I said I that I had to use a different scalar than the one for 850s. I did get your target A/F to 11.5:1 to redline very quickly. So as far as the scalar was concerned, it was “almost like not having 850s.” I had to use a different value than what I was technically supposed to. But I did get it calibrated. But moving that scalar is not a bad thing. I did tell you that. I guess you only heard one part of it. Maybe I gave you too much information than giving it to you plain. I tend to do that.
One of the complaints that locals here have for mainland tuners is their lack of communication. I tried to explain to you my process and what was happening, but you didn’t seem to really care to talk about it. So that was my fault for not explaining it well. I apologize. But I really did try to explain the technical side to you. I didn’t mean to say that they were all bad.
Also, I’m not sure if you posted it for fun, but if you have fuel pressure regulator issues, then that explains a lot about the scalar that I had to use because they’re related. But me moving the scalar around was not a bad thing for your car.
If you feel that was wrong move for me to do, to stop to save you money, then I apologize. I think I did what AMS did. I stopped. Seth from Sonics really wanted to put your car on the dyno the next day, and I was pretty adamant that it would be useless without boost control, as I hadn’t been able to log above 7psi. Also I was also pretty adamant about roughing your car in on the street, being able to turn the boost up and verifying you’re a/f which is what AMS would do, but they would do it on the dyno.
Then we installed an MBC to verify if your turbo was working properly (so we eliminated that as a cause) and sure enough, boost shot to 15psi from 7psi.. So we then did a leak test to verify that everything was leak free in your system, and we found a few small ones but nothing major. Mind you I wasn’t there to troubleshoot all of that. So we did a lot of troubleshooting for you.
I spent a small amount of time trying to dial in a safe air/fuel ratio on the street, as I was having to use a different injector scalar and deadtime than the one printed on your injector sheet. I didn’t say that the injectors didn’t feel like 850s. I said I that I had to use a different scalar than the one for 850s. I did get your target A/F to 11.5:1 to redline very quickly. So as far as the scalar was concerned, it was “almost like not having 850s.” I had to use a different value than what I was technically supposed to. But I did get it calibrated. But moving that scalar is not a bad thing. I did tell you that. I guess you only heard one part of it. Maybe I gave you too much information than giving it to you plain. I tend to do that.
One of the complaints that locals here have for mainland tuners is their lack of communication. I tried to explain to you my process and what was happening, but you didn’t seem to really care to talk about it. So that was my fault for not explaining it well. I apologize. But I really did try to explain the technical side to you. I didn’t mean to say that they were all bad.
Also, I’m not sure if you posted it for fun, but if you have fuel pressure regulator issues, then that explains a lot about the scalar that I had to use because they’re related. But me moving the scalar around was not a bad thing for your car.
If you feel that was wrong move for me to do, to stop to save you money, then I apologize. I think I did what AMS did. I stopped. Seth from Sonics really wanted to put your car on the dyno the next day, and I was pretty adamant that it would be useless without boost control, as I hadn’t been able to log above 7psi. Also I was also pretty adamant about roughing your car in on the street, being able to turn the boost up and verifying you’re a/f which is what AMS would do, but they would do it on the dyno.
Last edited by STiAlain; 10-08-2009 at 08:38 PM.
10-08-2009, 09:09 PM
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i'm not saying your stupid, but calling him retarded was. what experience do you have with subarus? i noticed you joined i-club last month so my suggestion to you is do your research. personnaly, i learned more about my car from iwsti than i-club.
how long have your parts been installed? did you inspect the work after installation? did you notice your car acting different after the install?
who installed your parts? if you paid someone to install them, i suggest you go back and get some money refunded or have them re-install the parts properly.
if you installed all your parts, sorry for your bad luck. i did my own stuff too. but i checked my work and the "easy" turbo back install was good enough to get tuned to 282/328. look for "HIIC Tuning Days - 2008".
if you come to the meat tomorrow, i suggest you stay away from the guy with the red 08. he's grumpy and doesn't like ignorant people.
10-08-2009, 11:23 PM
#44
LOL @ stay away from the grumpy guy in the red 08. I haven't had any problems with that guy. He's super chill in my book 
lol.
December, December. That's a long time to be waiting. Maybe I should start putting money away. Maybe not...Who knows.
lol.December, December. That's a long time to be waiting. Maybe I should start putting money away. Maybe not...Who knows.