Pat - Brake info......
08-25-2003, 01:09 PM
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I definitely agree with Joey about the Subaru 4pots. They are a very significant gain over the stock wrx brakes, .... we know b/c we've been on the Race track with both, either driving or riding, it's easy to tell.
What are the 'stopping numbers' on the Baer kit?? Anything close to the Stoptech's?? And who did that test with performance figures with all the different brake kits??
What are the 'stopping numbers' on the Baer kit?? Anything close to the Stoptech's?? And who did that test with performance figures with all the different brake kits??
08-25-2003, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ditchhanger
I beg to disagree with you, Mitch. The 4-pots are an improvement over the stock WRX calipers and a huge jump for the RS. Yes, the rotors may be the same size, but I've driven with both the stock WRX brakes/ rotors on my RS as well as the 4-pot conversion. There is a definite difference between the two. With the right fluid and SS lines, they are not bad for the price...
I beg to disagree with you, Mitch. The 4-pots are an improvement over the stock WRX calipers and a huge jump for the RS. Yes, the rotors may be the same size, but I've driven with both the stock WRX brakes/ rotors on my RS as well as the 4-pot conversion. There is a definite difference between the two. With the right fluid and SS lines, they are not bad for the price...
08-25-2003, 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ditchhanger
I beg to disagree with you, Mitch. The 4-pots are an improvement over the stock WRX calipers and a huge jump for the RS. Yes, the rotors may be the same size, but I've driven with both the stock WRX brakes/ rotors on my RS as well as the 4-pot conversion. There is a definite difference between the two. With the right fluid and SS lines, they are not bad for the price...
I beg to disagree with you, Mitch. The 4-pots are an improvement over the stock WRX calipers and a huge jump for the RS. Yes, the rotors may be the same size, but I've driven with both the stock WRX brakes/ rotors on my RS as well as the 4-pot conversion. There is a definite difference between the two. With the right fluid and SS lines, they are not bad for the price...
There are no gains in stopping distance pad for pad, tire for tire. However with the 4 pots you do get a much better choice in pads.
08-25-2003, 07:07 PM
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Come to think of it this is the very same topic that got me in trouble when I first posted on HIIC.
I'm going to bow out of this thread for good. It's not worth my time to argue this point anymore.
I'm going to bow out of this thread for good. It's not worth my time to argue this point anymore.
08-25-2003, 07:24 PM
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If there is no difference in stopping power between the two, why the hell would they make them in the first place? You're right...let this one die. I don't have all the technical know-how and I don't read all the articles and specs...I just have my opinion from actually have used and raced my car on the track with both setups, not to mention other cars with similar setups 
08-25-2003, 07:54 PM
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I'll be honest. I'd like to hear input from both the technical, clinical research aspect as well as the practical application aspect. I'm not biased. I'm sure there are merits to both perspectives, even when the two seem to collide.
Why the **** does everyone gotta get their panties in a wad over crap like this? It's just a forum. A means of relaying information, not to measure peckers. I don't give a crap who's teaching me here. So long as it seems to my little pea brain that you are honestly trying to give me information that you believe to be true. If I don't believe what you tell me, that's my prerogative. But I'll guarantee you that everyone on here who's ever given me advice has done me a huge favor. Even if I don't follow their advice, it has still helped focus my thinking and research.
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Why the **** does everyone gotta get their panties in a wad over crap like this? It's just a forum. A means of relaying information, not to measure peckers. I don't give a crap who's teaching me here. So long as it seems to my little pea brain that you are honestly trying to give me information that you believe to be true. If I don't believe what you tell me, that's my prerogative. But I'll guarantee you that everyone on here who's ever given me advice has done me a huge favor. Even if I don't follow their advice, it has still helped focus my thinking and research.
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08-25-2003, 10:51 PM
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I've never been accused of being
an expert, so here's some numbers for you. The 2002 Corvette weighs from 3100+ to 3200+ pounds (depending on model). The front rotor is a 325 X 32 mm, so if the Baer rotor is 13" X 1.1", it's slightly taller (330mm), and slightly thinner (28mm). I would think they'll haul you down nicely, but wondering if you might want to do the H6 rear upgrade. The Vette uses a pretty good size rear rotor (305 X 26 mm).
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08-25-2003, 11:05 PM
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Pat and I are just trying to come up with a good way to make his stage 4 WRX w/ stock brakes, stop during a track day. I suggested what I did because it's track proven (here on our track in Hawaii), economical and great set-up! If someone has something in mind, throw it out for the good of the group. I like to learn about new stuff!
08-25-2003, 11:16 PM
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I think the Baer kit
is the better value just because of the larger rotors. Once again, I would like to see two-piece rotors in the kit, but as large as the Baer rotors are, it may not be an issue. Then again, if it wasn't an issue, I doubt Stoptech (among others) would use two-piece rotors.
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08-25-2003, 11:20 PM
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Patrick, we do offer our GT front system for your WRX. The system will have a 13" rotor, two piston pin drive caliper, pads, brkts, hardware, and hoses. The system start at $845.00 and you will need a 17" or larger set of wheels. If you have any questions please call.
Dan, here's that link.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=411538
He's saying wagon, but from what it looks like, this control arm fits GG as well as GD.
08-25-2003, 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by gpatmac
Dan, here's that link.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=411538
He's saying wagon, but from what it looks like, this control arm fits GG as well as GD.
Dan, here's that link.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=411538
He's saying wagon, but from what it looks like, this control arm fits GG as well as GD.
http://www.rallispec.com/product-susp2.htm
But I think these don't fit on the wagon. I also thought they didn't make "wagon" ones?
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