i was bored and i found this car that raced full track in july

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Old 08-22-2005, 04:45 AM
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i was bored and i found this car that raced full track in july

streets of willow race, he said he passed the Evo MR, an s14, AE86 corolla, and a 97 integra gsr. he claims a 1/4 mi. time of 13.9. you be the judge

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MOds are:

=engine mods=
-E.L. Prototypes Cold Air Intake
-E.L. Prototypes Header
-Spec Stage 2 Clutch with Kevlar segmented disc
-Tom's 7.8lb Lighten flywheel
-Perrin Lightened Pulley
-Apex'i S-AFCII
-200cc 1999 Corolla 1zz-fe injectors
-Apex'i EL1 Tach
-2.5" E.S Tunning Muffler
-2.5" exhaust from cat back
-2.5" in/out AE111 20valve resonator
-4" Sebring tip
-Custom blue grounding kit
-Hawker Odyssey 15lb battery PC680
-upgarded head light wiring harness
-5zigen oil cap
-TRD radiator cap

=suspension mods=
-Tein Super Streets that was re-valved and re-stroke ( 83mm of stroke in the front and 140mm stroke in the back)
-Swift Springs 7kg in the front and 8kg in the back
-Cusco Camber plates
-Cusco mid frame brace
-JIC front suspension bar
-DC SPort strut bar
-TRD rear frame brace
-Ebay copy of a Do-Luck center floor brace
-White rear sway bar
-Upgraded Prothane sway bar bushings
-PBR brake pads
-Custom Stainless steel brake lines

=interior=
-SCion XA Driver and passenger seats
-Momo shift boot
-TRD shift ball
-Tom's steering wheel
-Tom's horn button
-TRP 75mm Hub extender
-Nardi Boss hub
-Nardi steering wheel spacer
-Razo pedals
-Crow enterprise harness bolts
-Sparco EVO L ( EVO II new edition) complete with sliders and custom rails
-Custom Pass Performance Harness bar
-5 point Crow Enterprise harness
-Vitz Arm Rest

=extrior=
-Raybrig wireless remote yellow fog lights
-Narva Gold all weather bulbs
-14x7 Panasports (ProRally model which is for Racing Purpose only)
-205/60-14 Toyo Proxes RA1 road racing tires
-Tundra wheel studs

=Fluids=
-Motul 300V 5w40 for the tracking
-Motul 8100 Xcess 5w40 for the streets
-Motul Gear 300 for the trans
-Motul Inuegel Optimal Ultra for the radaitor
-Motul RBF 600 brake fluid


Waiting for it to arrive in the mail:
-New 15x8 Work Equip 03's

Future mods:
-Blitz Supercharger

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what else i find funny is he calls his car the Kaka-Roach!!!
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hmm i didnt read anything about force induction other than future mods a blitz supercharger. i can only think he has done something seriously drastic to the motor or he is blowing smoke up our fourth point of contact.
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The track looks awesome....
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hmm i didnt read anything about force induction other than future mods a blitz supercharger. i can only think he has done something seriously drastic to the motor or he is blowing smoke up our fourth point of contact.
this was posted on a toyota forum, and i honestly don't know how he is making the kind of power he is claiming with just those engine mods. IIRC don't stock echo's run like 19-20 sec. 1/4 mi. passes?? so he took off 6 sec. with intake, header, flywheel, lightened pulley, and 200cc injectors?? i wanna raise the B>S> flag too.....
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mm yah nice track
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As far as 1320 times go...a 13.9 "may" be a stretch....however, drag racing and auto-x/road course racing are 2 completely different animals.

I don't know the year model of that Echo, but the 2003 4 door weighs in at 2055 lbs, sporting 108 HP (MT). A little weight reduction and minimal to moderate increase in HP would make it a pretty quick little car.

Power/Weight Comparison

2003 Toyota Echo 4 door

(Weight/HP = # per HP)

2055 #/108 HP = 19.02 - Stock
2055 #/120 HP = 17.12
2055 #/130 HP = 15.80
2055 #/140 HP = 14.67

1955 #/108 HP = 18.10
1955 #/120 HP = 16.29
1955 #/130 HP = 15.03
1955 #/140 HP = 13.96

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX

3085 #/227 HP = 13.59 (13.16 @102.93 according to Motor Trend)

2005 Acura RL

3984 #/300 HP = 13.28 (15.2 @ 92.6 according to Edmunds.com)

2005 Ford Mustang GT

3425#/300 HP = 11.41 (13.9 @ 104 according to Ford Motor Company)

It's plain to see that #/HP ratios don't tell the whole story. Gearing, drivetrain loss, driver skill, track conditions, etc all play a part.

As far as that 13.9 goes.....

I calculated to turn a 13.99 1/4 pass (assuming 1955# car + 200 lb driver for 2155 total weight) the Echo would have to have roughly 155 HP at the wheels (175 ish @ the flywheel). I'm not saying that's not "possible"....however I would tend to echo (pun intended) 4080wrx's statement above.

My .02 cents....feel free to give change.

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^^ thanks for the insight. it is a badass car on a track though, but i guess there are possibilities to this little toyota
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hello

I was bored too and found this on google...

I'm the owner of the echo you guys are talking about ...

13.9 in a quarter mile in my Echo LOL!!! I wish ... The best I could muster is 15.8@92mph before most of my major mods...

The 13.9 was a run I made long time ago in my Camry ...
this is the setup I ran 13's in Palmdale at 13psi...
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this is my setup now ...
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By the way I recently went back to Streets of Willow ...

Heres some vids:
Me being chased by a Lotus Elise

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Me trying to catch up to a BMW M3

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Me hunting down a 400 hp Evo Lancer

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Me passing a Porshe Boxster and chasing the rest of the group

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Me hunting down a Nissan SER race car

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ok so im confused (are we surprised?)...those vids (which my comp wont allow me to watch...) shows which car? the echo or camry? and what are the CURRENT mods/times for both cars? i think that will go a long way to clear things up.
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Wraith that is one cool Echo you have there!
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Originally Posted by X-Factor
ok so im confused (are we surprised?)...those vids (which my comp wont allow me to watch...) shows which car? the echo or camry? and what are the CURRENT mods/times for both cars? i think that will go a long way to clear things up.
echo, damn echo owner that's some cool ****...props to you for taking that car and doing what you did....
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