sounds just like bbs...hopefully someone will step in and buy out the company...

 

I know!! Maybe thats why they been having their warehouse clearance sell..

 

I agree...........

 

Well said. Again, I'm aware of the Reseach and Development factor playing in. I can very well understand your point of view, Like I said earlyer I agree with you 100% that companys like Greddy deserve full credit for taking an idea out of thin air and turning it into a actual working product through countless hours of R&D, tuning, and remarkable engineering.

But I still stand by my previous post. You metion you haven't seen any knock off parts being better than the orginal, well I have....Kakumei being one of those brands. That is "a guy in China" I will stand by (Taiwan to be exact).

I still buy "Brand name" parts for my STi (Greddy, Sard, Perrin, WORKS, ect...) but when I can find a more affordible alternatives for other minor parts, such as hood dampers and CF alternator covers. As long as it quality is the same or better than the orginal it was designed after, I will be smart with my spending and save whatever money I can by buying the knock off instead

Now, there is ALOT of knock off brands out there like "Matrix Brand" that there quality is beyond crap. So I am picky with knock offs. Don't think that I'm down to buy ALL knock off brands, only about 3% of knock offs out there on the market pass my personal standard. To me, there is a difference between "Cheap and "Affordable". Cheap to me is a poorly made item with a low price. Affordable is a qualiy made item with a low price.

Hopefully you will be able to attend this upcomming charity cruise this sunday, That way in person, I can show you some of the knock off parts I have choose to installed on my STi that are IMO and the comments of others here in HIIC ARE great quality. That way, you can now say you been exposed to knock offs with the same workmaship or quality as the original.

It's still unfortunate what is happening to companys like Greddy. For that, I am upset with knock off brands out there. But that is as far as my anger goes. Everyone is intitled to there own opinion on a situation like this, we can see eye to eye on most of this, but we do have diffrence. The best I can do at this point is show you some good qualiy "replica" parts and hopefully change your mind on all Knock offs being bad.

 

good points all around.
Lets just hope that once the economy picks up they will start back up again.
I agree that knock offs are good in the short run and sometimes the quality is nearly the same but in the long run I would rather have the innovative companies around

 

mmm thats pretty sad. Greddys nice.

 

Hmmm. It's funny, because I'd have to say we probably agree on just about everything here, it really is a minor matter of semantics which separates our views. Perhaps due to the internet being without faces or voices I come off as being a little black and white in my descriptions... I do not doubt that there are some companies capable of creating a copy that is very close to the original, but that would be, as you have said, the extreme minority of companies. I'm glad that you use genuine parts for the important aspects of your vehicle, ex. engine, drivetrain, management, electronics; and that the only parts you are willing to compromise on are trim or small non vital parts of your car. Hopefully I don't come across as some elitist bastid who just looks down on those who buy cheap parts, my personal beef with knock offs and their companies is that little by little copies chip away at the industry as a whole. As I said before, people will do what they feel is best for them regardless of the underlying circumstances which surround them, that's just the way free market works, for better or worse...

Sadly I probably won't be attending any I-club meets any time soon, (not that it should matter ), mainly due to my lack of a subaru at this time I've finally laid mine to rest this year, and am quite busy with my mazdas, toyota and nissan... Quite frankly the stuff I'd talk about and be interested are probably at odds with what you guys would be interested in, and conversely, the intricacies of turbos, awd handling and techniques aren't really my cup of tea anymore. Oh theres also the fact that I'm more of a social recluse and don't do the car cruise or hangout thing any more... Anyway if you come out to auto-x say hello, I'd like to match a face to the screen name... Of course I'd have to say I'm lousy with names , and will probably be busy trying to get my girlfriend in the top twenty with words of encouragement like "wtf are you doing?!?!!! get on the gAAAaaassss!!!!" or " try not failing so much and maybe you'll go faster next run". Hmm, maybe that's not such a good idea, I'll probably seem even more like a dick...

 

number of people/business going bankrupt increased 250 percent, I don't blame knockoffs, I blame this country's economy

 

She's still got her G.C. though. And well said on all points.

Oh crap, this is 808subaru, i forgot to log wifey out.

 

nope no subarus anymore his was killed at a light she sold hers

 

wow. Prodrive U.S (unless that has been worked out?), BBS, now this.

Everyones made really good points, its just sad that it has to be discussed.

 

If you're talking about leila, then no, we don't have the black gc anymore, we sold it about a year ago She raced the gc a few times, once or twice at the kalaeloa hangar, and once or twice at hrp, she switched to racing my 94 miata last year, but now shares the mr2 with me this season. She finally started getting serious about racing during the middle of last year and is slowly making her way up the ranks... Right now she just needs more experience/seat time, and to improve her throttle modulation and turn in points. She's holding on tenuously to the high 20's but i'd like her to be in the top 20 or at least 25 by the end of the season...

 

Ahhh, i remember her running it at HRP before, but swore i seen it less than a year ago. Damn, has it been that long? Wow.

 

i'm gonna say you failed at reading the link. the main company is in japan and it is in japan where they filed the bankruptcy

 

David

I think I remember reading that prodrive america was closing due to a combination of things including their wanting to focus more on Aston Martin.
I do not think it was entirely related to U.S sales/profit.