more reliable tuner ftw!!! haha

 

So about Lorenzos new turbo....

 

i let chad drive my car...he kinda felt what it could do....guy didnt want to push it and i egged him on several times....anyway, i recall posting a number here in one of these threads....the last time i dyno'd was last year. my car had various problems....4080 wrx has seen my graph and he was actually surprised at how well it did considering the issues and my setup.

 

torque is good and all.. but HP wins the race in drag racing at least
and im sure that the torque in Ryans tune was purposely kept low to conserve the stock 5spd

 

[QUOTE=Jrocko;2891142]Both Chads cars needs different parts to get over 300. He knows his **** about cars. but he doesn't part all his money into his Cars.
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im glad you feel this way....but from experience...i will not let chad touch any of my cars again.

 

Hrmm, launching works better if you have torque. Especially with an AWD car. I like to think an ideal power output keeps the torque and horsepower close to each other.

 

The lack of technical discussion in this thread is astounding.
I think Doll was burned by someone in this thread, and she's bringing that in, but it's off topic.


Also I dont think that the hybrids stand to flow less from what I've seen. It's more of an issue with quench than flow, so opening the head's flow is really not the issue that tuners have at high load. It's really that the pads don't match up, and this poses an issue with knock resistance and the way the fuel burns in the chamber. I didn't know EQ offered that procedure. That's pretty cool that it's CNCd, which means at least there's consistency in the machine work from head to head, assuming the design is sound. I would also think that a custom piston would also be a solution, since you could just have the shape of the piston match the pads on the 2.0l head. But when it comes to quench, it's all hit or miss.


Also I think that saying one tuner maxed out injectors and the other didn't is a non sequitir. Without data, it's meaningless conjecture. That would be like saying "Well this one girl got me off in five minutes, and her friend is younger, so she should do a better job because she's younger and more fit and so it would be less time." You need to look at the A/F data to understand what each tuner was trying to do. If you don't know, then that's not fair to the tuner.



To really test out the results, only peak HP numbers wont tell you anything. You really want to have a lower MBT. The goal is try to achieve the maximum amount of torque with the least amount of timing possible.

 

Neither is anyone who is willing to take a hand dremmel tool to a head.

the impurities and inconsistancies created by using a hand held dremmel are far more detremental to Lorenzo's power than Hawaii's fuel quality. buy quality fuel at a good station and those inconsistancies in fuel become less and less of a concern.

but in Lorenzo's quest for making more power, having burring and micro-scratches in his head which hold heat, leave power on the table. Chris has to go far more conservative on his tune to prevent knock.

Additionally another thing working against Spinplay's engine building prowess is his disregard in measuring combustion chamber volume, effectively creating differences in the individual cylinder compression ratios of his engines.

 

[QUOTE=dysfunctnl doll;2891150]and thats you opinion...
Chad build my Block and I did over 300.

 

Reido.... Thank you for attending. You summed up my thoughts in the first sentence. You are a life saver!

 

Thank you Dane!

But this thread is getting interesting...keep it going?

 

Please feel the love and aloha for one another! I second the FP red I don't think you will get much bored after that turbo.

 

I have two arguments against not being detailed with machine work. First is the scientific method. When you're trying to increase a number, you're going to want to record every bit of detail that you have, and that includes clearances. The reason is simple. When you're trying to make an increase in anything, you need to be able to trace back your success to data. The more precision you have the better.
When you try to zing a motor to 10k, you're going to spin a couple of bearings. if you don't record all o the data on your build and be precise, you won't know what to change. I think the same is true with headwork.


if you build your motor with disregard for precision, it just means that you're happy with not being able to define causation. You can make assumptions and say "oh it did well for xx" reason. But that wouldn't be a valid statement.

As for the bowl volumes, I'm sure that the variances in volume are meaningless at lower power levels I agree. Chevy heads respond this way, but the chambers are Fracking (anyone watch BSG?) huge!!! Grace Park ftw btw...
Compare that to tiny heads on a subaru and the variations in size become magnified.
So if your gf told you that you had a big one but her last bf was a midget, the comparison probably wont make you feel any better, and I think that applies to import heads (head whatever)...


Sorry I quoted the wrong person..

 

443 whp isn't good power from a 2.5L with pump gas and 1000cc injectors on a hot day without spraying the intercooler? He had enough torque to rip the rivets out of a 1000 hp rated twin disc clutch.

It was fast enough.

Lorenzo did just fine also with his small turbo and stock wrx cams.

I didnt know I was on a high dyno number mission.

I thought the point was to build an inexpensive fun reliable car with a usable powerband for the street.

If some one wants me to build a high revving, idles like poop, volitile, trailer queen that puts out high hp numbers in a small range I can do that.

Or it can idle smooth and build as much power and be reliable. But it will cost a lot more.

Anything is possible for the right price.


I just do it as favors for dirt cheap or free.

If somebody wants to pay me what they would pay a professional shop, and i felt like doing it. the numbers would be comparable if that was the goal.

I wear slacks to work. I design internet infrastructure, build flight simulators, and configure complex audio/video matrix swithing.
If someone presents me with a project and enough money to make it happen..I can make it happen. That is what I do on a regular basis. And I can break it down peice by peice and hour by hour and put it on excel with formulas, then convert it to html and put it on my website. Make a homemade lasagna then go and do a no footted 360 on a mountain bike.

haha


thanks for making me feel bad brett. i'm crying on the inside now.

 

im sorry chad...but you really hurt me too...we can have this discussion on the side...but i really felt used by you...sorry. and i guess thats what alot of this anger is about....not necessarily the little incident that happened, but alot of the other things that did or didnt happen.....