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Old 12-15-2008 | 04:58 PM
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Yo vern! I tried checking your gear ratios to tire size calcs...

redline 8400
final drive 4.13
kumho v710's

1st gear 35mph
2nd gear 68mph
3rd gear 99 mph
4th gear 134mph
5th gear 158mph

Nutz...
Old 12-15-2008 | 10:10 PM
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Old 12-16-2008 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shin RS
Yo vern! I tried checking your gear ratios to tire size calcs...

redline 8400
final drive 4.13
kumho v710's

1st gear 35mph
2nd gear 68mph
3rd gear 99 mph
4th gear 134mph
5th gear 158mph

Nutz...
I don't think I would want to be in the MR2 if it could get to 158 mph!!!
Old 12-16-2008 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Shin RS
Yo vern! I tried checking your gear ratios to tire size calcs...

redline 8400
final drive 4.13
kumho v710's

1st gear 35mph
2nd gear 68mph
3rd gear 99 mph
4th gear 134mph
5th gear 158mph

Nutz...
NICE! Now if I could pull redline in second, id be golden.

Looks like the setup you and I both need is the 2zzfe mated to a C52 trans running on 13" v710s.
Old 12-16-2008 | 10:44 AM
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I was thinking, Celica 6 spd, spyder stock 4.312 rear end, hoosier 255/40 r13's and hoosier 255/40 r13's would work pretty well.

Redline would be at about 38mph in 1st, and when redline shifting into 2nd, you'd be just about at the 5500 rpm VTAK, cross over point. If you wanted something non-streetable, then I'd go with the same setup, but with the same setup, but with the c-one 4.8 rear end... 1st would fly by at 34mph, and 2nd would top out at 53mph, which is about as fast as most courses are going to get.... I'd prefer this setup, as 2nd is easier to modulate, but on the street it would suck.


Correction, with this setup, it may still be about stock... I forgot it'd be a 6spd rather than a 5 spd, and that on street tires, the rolling diameter would increase by about an inch.... 60mph would come in at about 3100-3200 which is lower than stock

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Old 12-16-2008 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Shin RS
I was thinking, Celica 6 spd, spyder stock 4.312 rear end, hoosier 255/40 r13's and hoosier 255/40 r13's would work pretty well.

Redline would be at about 38mph in 1st, and when redline shifting into 2nd, you'd be just about at the 5500 rpm VTAK, cross over point. If you wanted something non-streetable, then I'd go with the same setup, but with the same setup, but with the c-one 4.8 rear end... 1st would fly by at 34mph, and 2nd would top out at 53mph, which is about as fast as most courses are going to get.... I'd prefer this setup, as 2nd is easier to modulate, but on the street it would suck.


Correction, with this setup, it may still be about stock... I forgot it'd be a 6spd rather than a 5 spd, and that on street tires, the rolling diameter would increase by about an inch.... 60mph would come in at about 3100-3200 which is lower than stock
Im already at 3200rpm @ 60mph in fifth. VTAK on my car crosses at 4300. So basically im at where we should be now on the 13" v710's, theoretically. The underlying problem now is power. I think the factory 190bhp @ the crank on the 2zzfe might be what I need. Should be an easy swap with either an FC power commander or Megasquirt.
Old 12-17-2008 | 01:04 AM
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lol you said megasquirt

I have no idea what you are talking about... /bump
Old 12-17-2008 | 11:44 AM
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MEGASquirt!!!!!!
Haha, p.north.... j/k

We're talking about some nerdage about gear ratios for auto-x ( and also for daily driving ). We don't exactly have much power to brag about, so mechanical gear advantages or high revving ( in verns case ) helps to even the field. His car revs to 8400 rpm Mine revs to 6750 boo Eventually I'm planning on doing a motor swap and raising the rev limit to 8400 too, so this is some planning I'm doing for the future. Normally I don't get this involved, but I'd like to take Curtis down again one day...
Old 12-17-2008 | 12:23 PM
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is he still maintaining good power and torque through the whole band all the way to redline??? if so uhmmmmmm wow!! must be screaming!
Old 12-17-2008 | 01:34 PM
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Well, for our cars, "good" power and torque is a relative term... I think my car makes about as much power at both rear wheels as francis's car does at just one
Old 12-17-2008 | 02:06 PM
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where's the forza/gt style graph to accompany your claims? i need to see figures.
Old 12-17-2008 | 02:49 PM
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I don't have some new finangled program to graph hp/torque to rpm/gear selection, but as far as graphs are concerned, I concocted this one yesterday...

The dynos are from SCC.
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Old 12-17-2008 | 08:03 PM
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ahhhh....... yeah i was just wondering if your still getting the same kind of pull at like 7500 as you would be at 4500,.....
Old 12-17-2008 | 09:43 PM
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is he still maintaining good power and torque through the whole band all the way to redline??? if so uhmmmmmm wow!! must be screaming!
No to the mainting good power and torque. LMAO!
Old 12-17-2008 | 09:46 PM
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That GT-S is horrible from 4000~6300rpm. I wonder if the VTAK crossover occurs at this point?



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