300+whp on stock vf39?
#1
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: THE BAY
Posts: 1,663
Car Info: WRX
300+whp on stock vf39?
i have a 05 sti and im trying to push out at least 300whp. This is very possible right?
Mods:
-Gruppe-s Manifold
-Gruppe-s Crank Pulley
-Helix Uppipe
-Helix Dp
-Alky Injection
-Walbro Fp
-Cobb Accessport
-Apexi Catback
I made 268whp on 91oct last year with Ecutek w/ only a dp, aem intake and a custom straight pipe.
i need peoples opinion
Mods:
-Gruppe-s Manifold
-Gruppe-s Crank Pulley
-Helix Uppipe
-Helix Dp
-Alky Injection
-Walbro Fp
-Cobb Accessport
-Apexi Catback
I made 268whp on 91oct last year with Ecutek w/ only a dp, aem intake and a custom straight pipe.
i need peoples opinion
#8
Yeah, You've Probably Never Heard Of Me.
iTrader: (21)
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: in a glass case of emotion.
Posts: 17,962
Car Info: 345/30/19s
Originally Posted by WrbImprezaSti
the 268 was on gruppe-s's dyno.
I dont think you will hit 300whp though you might come close! Problem is even if you have alky so you can raise your boost and increase your timing advance, it doesnt change the fact that your VF39 cannot phsically pump out enough air to hold more than 12-13psi at after 6K. So you will get a massive bump in your midrange hp and peak tq, but not much to your up top peak hp. same goes for the headers, I picked up a ton of tq in the midrange with them, but still didnt help up top when the turbo runs out of breath. Let us know how it goes though, a torquey fast spooling motor is WAY more fun than fun than a laggy peaky high hp car though, trust me Ive done both in my STI, you will probly stop caring about peak hp numbers after the first time you charge out of a 20mph corner like you just got shot out of a cannon!
#9
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: THE BAY
Posts: 1,663
Car Info: WRX
Originally Posted by Krinkov
wow, good whp last time, what was your tq?
I dont think you will hit 300whp though you might come close! Problem is even if you have alky so you can raise your boost and increase your timing advance, it doesnt change the fact that your VF39 cannot phsically pump out enough air to hold more than 12-13psi at after 6K. So you will get a massive bump in your midrange hp and peak tq, but not much to your up top peak hp. same goes for the headers, I picked up a ton of tq in the midrange with them, but still didnt help up top when the turbo runs out of breath. Let us know how it goes though, a torquey fast spooling motor is WAY more fun than fun than a laggy peaky high hp car though, trust me Ive done both in my STI, you will probly stop caring about peak hp numbers after the first time you charge out of a 20mph corner like you just got shot out of a cannon!
I dont think you will hit 300whp though you might come close! Problem is even if you have alky so you can raise your boost and increase your timing advance, it doesnt change the fact that your VF39 cannot phsically pump out enough air to hold more than 12-13psi at after 6K. So you will get a massive bump in your midrange hp and peak tq, but not much to your up top peak hp. same goes for the headers, I picked up a ton of tq in the midrange with them, but still didnt help up top when the turbo runs out of breath. Let us know how it goes though, a torquey fast spooling motor is WAY more fun than fun than a laggy peaky high hp car though, trust me Ive done both in my STI, you will probly stop caring about peak hp numbers after the first time you charge out of a 20mph corner like you just got shot out of a cannon!
it was 268whp and 278 tq
#10
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 40
Car Info: 2005 WRX STI
The Gruppe-S is a very low reading Mustang dyno. Stock STI's run about 210-215 whp. This isn't a bad thing. Pay attention to the percentage increase from stock on this dyno, rather than what your end numbers are. 300 whp on this dyno is about 360 whp on the average Dynojet.
My '05 STI with a TD06 20G, Spearco TMIC, 860 Helixes, Gruppe-S jet coated headers, Walbro 255 fuel pump, and meth injection at 20 psi trailing to 17 psi on a conservative, daily driver tune is 309whp/328wtq on this dyno. Before adding the meth, I was at 296/309 on the same dyno. Now, I'm still about 48% more whp than stock and 56% more wtq. I can live with that, and I'm not worried about blowing up my stock block at these levels with a good tune! That's still over 400 crank hp for a daily driven street car.
My '05 STI with a TD06 20G, Spearco TMIC, 860 Helixes, Gruppe-S jet coated headers, Walbro 255 fuel pump, and meth injection at 20 psi trailing to 17 psi on a conservative, daily driver tune is 309whp/328wtq on this dyno. Before adding the meth, I was at 296/309 on the same dyno. Now, I'm still about 48% more whp than stock and 56% more wtq. I can live with that, and I'm not worried about blowing up my stock block at these levels with a good tune! That's still over 400 crank hp for a daily driven street car.
Last edited by billg; 07-25-2006 at 08:35 AM.
#11
Originally Posted by billg
The Gruppe-S is a very low reading Mustang dyno. Stock STI's run about 210-215 whp. This isn't a bad thing. Pay attention to the percentage increase from stock on this dyno, rather than what your end numbers are. 300 whp on this dyno is about 360 whp on the average Dynojet.
My '05 STI with a TD06 20G, Spearco TMIC, 860 Helixes, Gruppe-S jet coated headers, Walbro 255 fuel pump, and meth injection at 20 psi trailing to 17 psi on a conservative, daily driver tune is 309whp/328wtq on this dyno. Before adding the meth, I was at 296/309 on the same dyno. Now, I'm still about 48% more whp than stock and 56% more wtq. I can live with that, and I'm not worried about blowing up my stock block at these levels with a good tune! That's still over 400 crank hp for a daily driven street car.
My '05 STI with a TD06 20G, Spearco TMIC, 860 Helixes, Gruppe-S jet coated headers, Walbro 255 fuel pump, and meth injection at 20 psi trailing to 17 psi on a conservative, daily driver tune is 309whp/328wtq on this dyno. Before adding the meth, I was at 296/309 on the same dyno. Now, I'm still about 48% more whp than stock and 56% more wtq. I can live with that, and I'm not worried about blowing up my stock block at these levels with a good tune! That's still over 400 crank hp for a daily driven street car.
amount of power on your stock block as long as you respect the power
and are not always in boost.I think your numbers are very impressive Congrats.
#14
Originally Posted by herrjr
I found the proof I was looking for:
Done on an '04 with topmount and 100, plus the Warfield touch.
Done on an '04 with topmount and 100, plus the Warfield touch.
i know whos graph this is.. i think this is my friend's graph, he made like 302whp and 360tq on a 04sti with stock turbo
#15
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vallejo
Posts: 2,191
Car Info: 05 LegacyGT,06 Black STI Will be home Soon
Originally Posted by dunnzter428
i know whos graph this is.. i think this is my friend's graph, he made like 302whp and 360tq on a 04sti with stock turbo
I like the HP @ redline on this dyno graph