oil change
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I usually change my oil about every 2750 (I shoot for every3k but it just worked out that way) I use valvoline 10w30(free bulk oil at work) and a mitsubishi filtern p/n MD352626 (also free)
You can never change your oil too much. Oil gets contaminated and breaks down over time. While I haven't read my owners manual the 7500 mile interval is if you don't do things like....stop and go traffic....sustained freeway driving....extensive idleing....long trips....etc. In other words nobody besides my grandma should change their oil at 7500. If you're hard on your car every3k if not I still wouldnt go more than 5k
People who go by the 7500 interval dont have a 2.7 chrysler engine.
About the mitsu filter... sorry,but "FREE" overrides everything!
C-YA
You can never change your oil too much. Oil gets contaminated and breaks down over time. While I haven't read my owners manual the 7500 mile interval is if you don't do things like....stop and go traffic....sustained freeway driving....extensive idleing....long trips....etc. In other words nobody besides my grandma should change their oil at 7500. If you're hard on your car every3k if not I still wouldnt go more than 5k
People who go by the 7500 interval dont have a 2.7 chrysler engine.
About the mitsu filter... sorry,but "FREE" overrides everything!
C-YA
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if you change a new WRX's oil at 1,000 miles congrads couse you just blew the engine. its harden steel sleaves are 5 times stronger then that of a big block V-8 and come from the factory with special aditives in the oil to help break in those hardend sleves. wait till 6,000 then change. And before going to a full sinthetic use a semi sinthetic to prepare the engine. I have 35,000 miles on my new WRX i change my oil every 2,000 miles now becouse the abuse it takes high rev's bla bla track....... Actualy had a mech. ask if it was a new engine. i dont care who makes the oil if your hard on it "wrx turbo/ heat ex..." the oil is gona break down around 2-3,000 miles sinthetic or not.
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second that
I second that...it's not "how often" do you change your oil, it's "how much" you beat your engine. If you ride your
engine hard then the more often you'll have to change your
oil. I change mine every 3000 miles religiously and I still
get "damn, when was the last time you changed your oil?"
So now, depending how hard I beat it will determine if I
have it changed at 2,000 , 2,500 , or 3,000 miles.
...and how ever posted saything thre was no difference
changing your oil at 3,000 from 6,000 is nuts. Not with
turbo engines, this is not true at all. Turbo engines
tend to break down oil faster and turbos without turbo
timers or improper cool down times are more prone to
"having premature" oil changes.
engine hard then the more often you'll have to change your
oil. I change mine every 3000 miles religiously and I still
get "damn, when was the last time you changed your oil?"
So now, depending how hard I beat it will determine if I
have it changed at 2,000 , 2,500 , or 3,000 miles.
...and how ever posted saything thre was no difference
changing your oil at 3,000 from 6,000 is nuts. Not with
turbo engines, this is not true at all. Turbo engines
tend to break down oil faster and turbos without turbo
timers or improper cool down times are more prone to
"having premature" oil changes.
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Check this out:
http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...threadid=12800
This Balboa Subaru employee in San Diego claims that synthetic oil is BAD for your Subaru.
Fixed the link, sorry.
This Balboa Subaru employee in San Diego claims that synthetic oil is BAD for your Subaru.
Fixed the link, sorry.
Last edited by bone324; 03-23-2003 at 08:05 PM.
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Re: second that
Originally posted by subbywrx
...and how ever posted saything thre was no difference
changing your oil at 3,000 from 6,000 is nuts. Not with
turbo engines, this is not true at all. Turbo engines
tend to break down oil faster and turbos without turbo
timers or improper cool down times are more prone to
"having premature" oil changes.
...and how ever posted saything thre was no difference
changing your oil at 3,000 from 6,000 is nuts. Not with
turbo engines, this is not true at all. Turbo engines
tend to break down oil faster and turbos without turbo
timers or improper cool down times are more prone to
"having premature" oil changes.
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Practices I use for oil in a Turbo engine:
Keep the original factory oil in the engine for 2000-3000 miles, making sure to change the filter every 1000 miles. This will ensure you let the motor develop it's "groove" so to speak. Additionally this will prevent the metal particles from destroying your precious new motor.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. Since these two oils are of top quality you can "get away" with only changing the oil every 6000 miles. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles.
There is one exception to this. I have found that using the Amsoil Dual filtering setup will keep your oil as clean as a 3000-mile change up to 5000-6000 miles. For myself I run this setup and I change my oil and filters every 5000 miles and I ensure that I clean my air filter at the same time (or replace). It makes it easy for me to work with round numbers and doing everything at once.
This is just my opinion and nothing more, although my opinion has been shaped by years of being around the racing community; it means absolutely nothing when it comes to YOUR CAR.
P.S. A turbo timer or self-discipline can go a LONG way in saving your turbo and your oil. Use your brain=save your car.
-Steve Signorelli
Keep the original factory oil in the engine for 2000-3000 miles, making sure to change the filter every 1000 miles. This will ensure you let the motor develop it's "groove" so to speak. Additionally this will prevent the metal particles from destroying your precious new motor.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. Since these two oils are of top quality you can "get away" with only changing the oil every 6000 miles. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles.
There is one exception to this. I have found that using the Amsoil Dual filtering setup will keep your oil as clean as a 3000-mile change up to 5000-6000 miles. For myself I run this setup and I change my oil and filters every 5000 miles and I ensure that I clean my air filter at the same time (or replace). It makes it easy for me to work with round numbers and doing everything at once.
This is just my opinion and nothing more, although my opinion has been shaped by years of being around the racing community; it means absolutely nothing when it comes to YOUR CAR.
P.S. A turbo timer or self-discipline can go a LONG way in saving your turbo and your oil. Use your brain=save your car.
-Steve Signorelli
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Originally posted by ssignorelli
You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles.
You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles.
I have never changed up the filter with oil in the car for fear of soaking myself in black sludge. Is it possible to change the oil filter while staying relatively clean? I have always thought that taking off the filter would be a fast way to empty the oil from the engine. Edumacate me, please
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P.S. A turbo timer or self-discipline can go a LONG way in saving your turbo and your oil. Use your brain=save your car.
Look here almost to the bottom:
http://www.endwrench.com/current/win...03/insider.pdf
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"Keep the original factory oil in the engine for 2000-3000 miles, making sure to change the filter every 1000 miles.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles."
LOL OMG wow what kind of "RACE TEAM" are you on?? or around lol.. list of dumbass thing ever said..... #1. U change your filter but leave the oil.hmmmm tell me how i realy wana know?? #2. You go from straight petro to sintec oil on new engine?? on a old one at that you should always semi sin to prepare it. lol can you say kaaaabboooooommmmmm.... yea couse thats what your engine is going to do couse its hard sleeves are gona SCHOOORCH get hot strech and drag so fast the crank will snap. Hopefully a piston will come out and smack you smart again "or for the first time" i can stop hear you get the point aye?? probly one of those chevy guy's.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles."
LOL OMG wow what kind of "RACE TEAM" are you on?? or around lol.. list of dumbass thing ever said..... #1. U change your filter but leave the oil.hmmmm tell me how i realy wana know?? #2. You go from straight petro to sintec oil on new engine?? on a old one at that you should always semi sin to prepare it. lol can you say kaaaabboooooommmmmm.... yea couse thats what your engine is going to do couse its hard sleeves are gona SCHOOORCH get hot strech and drag so fast the crank will snap. Hopefully a piston will come out and smack you smart again "or for the first time" i can stop hear you get the point aye?? probly one of those chevy guy's.
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You can switch form dino to syn these days no problem since they got seal swellers in the oil now. Oil changes at 3000 are ridiculous, 5000 is a good compromise if you drive the car hard.
Please stop talking out you're *** people.
Please stop talking out you're *** people.
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Originally posted by SilverSti
"Keep the original factory oil in the engine for 2000-3000 miles, making sure to change the filter every 1000 miles.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles."
LOL OMG wow what kind of "RACE TEAM" are you on?? or around lol.. list of dumbass thing ever said..... #1. U change your filter but leave the oil.hmmmm tell me how i realy wana know?? #2. You go from straight petro to sintec oil on new engine?? on a old one at that you should always semi sin to prepare it. lol can you say kaaaabboooooommmmmm.... yea couse thats what your engine is going to do couse its hard sleeves are gona SCHOOORCH get hot strech and drag so fast the crank will snap. Hopefully a piston will come out and smack you smart again "or for the first time" i can stop hear you get the point aye?? probly one of those chevy guy's.
"Keep the original factory oil in the engine for 2000-3000 miles, making sure to change the filter every 1000 miles.
Once you have gotten through the break-in period I recommend a fresh oil change to a pure synthetic oil such as Amsoil or Redline, Amsoil being my personal recommendation. You MUST still change the filter every 3000 miles regardless if you decide to leave the oil in for 3000-6000 miles."
LOL OMG wow what kind of "RACE TEAM" are you on?? or around lol.. list of dumbass thing ever said..... #1. U change your filter but leave the oil.hmmmm tell me how i realy wana know?? #2. You go from straight petro to sintec oil on new engine?? on a old one at that you should always semi sin to prepare it. lol can you say kaaaabboooooommmmmm.... yea couse thats what your engine is going to do couse its hard sleeves are gona SCHOOORCH get hot strech and drag so fast the crank will snap. Hopefully a piston will come out and smack you smart again "or for the first time" i can stop hear you get the point aye?? probly one of those chevy guy's.
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I know the subject of oil and oil changing is a Pandora's Box but please keep it civil no need for name calling. If you feel you have to, take it off line.
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What Subaru has to say on the Subject
From here:
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/sc...sp?pageID=2003
Maintenance
Vehicle maintenance is an important factor for proper vehicle operation. The vehicle's driver should ensure that fluid levels (engine oil, coolant, etc.) are checked frequently (i.e., each time you add fuel) in accordance with the instructions in the owner's manual.
Your Subaru vehicle requires an initial engine oil and filter change at 3,000 miles or 3 months, whichever first occurs. We suggest that you schedule an appointment for this service and any other necessary adjustments at your local Subaru dealer. Locate your local dealer by going to the upper right corner of subaru.com and input your city, state or zip code.
Look here too:
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/sc...2003myfed.html
From the above:
When the vehicle is used under severe driving conditions**, the engine oil and filter should be changed every 6,000 km (3,750 miles) or 3.75 months.
Examples of severe driving conditions:
Repeated short distance driving when the engine does not reach normal operating temperature.
Driving in dusty conditions.
Driving in extremely cold weather.
Towing a trailer.
The frequency of scheduled inspection and maintenance services as set forth below is minimal. However, it may be necessary that they be performed more frequently depending on road conditions, weather, atmospheric conditions, vehicle usage and individual driving habits.
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/sc...sp?pageID=2003
Maintenance
Vehicle maintenance is an important factor for proper vehicle operation. The vehicle's driver should ensure that fluid levels (engine oil, coolant, etc.) are checked frequently (i.e., each time you add fuel) in accordance with the instructions in the owner's manual.
Your Subaru vehicle requires an initial engine oil and filter change at 3,000 miles or 3 months, whichever first occurs. We suggest that you schedule an appointment for this service and any other necessary adjustments at your local Subaru dealer. Locate your local dealer by going to the upper right corner of subaru.com and input your city, state or zip code.
Look here too:
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/sc...2003myfed.html
From the above:
When the vehicle is used under severe driving conditions**, the engine oil and filter should be changed every 6,000 km (3,750 miles) or 3.75 months.
Examples of severe driving conditions:
Repeated short distance driving when the engine does not reach normal operating temperature.
Driving in dusty conditions.
Driving in extremely cold weather.
Towing a trailer.
The frequency of scheduled inspection and maintenance services as set forth below is minimal. However, it may be necessary that they be performed more frequently depending on road conditions, weather, atmospheric conditions, vehicle usage and individual driving habits.
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Silver STi
Do some research on a REAL synthetic oil (castrol syntec does not count as real) before you start this nonsense about not being able to go from petroleum-based oils to synthetic.
There is one thing I should have mentioned about the "switch", you should always use an engine flush provided by the synthetic oil manufacturer to remove any petroleum residue during the break-in.
I was kind enough to provide my insight on the issue and provided a disclaimer that YOU do to YOUR car whatever fits your needs. I need my engine to last. So I follow what I posted.
If you have something positive to contribute, be my guest.
Otherwise, stop being a troll.
-Steve Signorelli
Do some research on a REAL synthetic oil (castrol syntec does not count as real) before you start this nonsense about not being able to go from petroleum-based oils to synthetic.
There is one thing I should have mentioned about the "switch", you should always use an engine flush provided by the synthetic oil manufacturer to remove any petroleum residue during the break-in.
I was kind enough to provide my insight on the issue and provided a disclaimer that YOU do to YOUR car whatever fits your needs. I need my engine to last. So I follow what I posted.
If you have something positive to contribute, be my guest.
Otherwise, stop being a troll.
-Steve Signorelli