How difficult is up/down pipe install?
06-23-2004, 11:05 AM
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How difficult is up/down pipe install?
I was interested in purchasing the helix up/down pipes, and I was wondering how hard the install is. I have heard some stories that make it sound a little scary. I guess I am looking for appx. how long it will take, what tools are needed, and if it's recommended to do it yourself or at a shop.
I have a stock 2002 WRX, and am looking to get a cat back exhaust once I find out how hard the up/dp installs are. Also does anyone know what gas mileage appx. I can expect with the up/dp's? Thank you all in advance.
Dave
I have a stock 2002 WRX, and am looking to get a cat back exhaust once I find out how hard the up/dp installs are. Also does anyone know what gas mileage appx. I can expect with the up/dp's? Thank you all in advance.
Dave
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06-23-2004, 11:36 AM
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This should help with the up-pipe install:
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=194
and here is for the DP:
also taken from Scooby Mods
"there are instructions, minus pics, in the Turbo Removal Mod"
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...light=downpipe
Hope this helped,
JC
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=194
and here is for the DP:
also taken from Scooby Mods
"there are instructions, minus pics, in the Turbo Removal Mod"
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...light=downpipe
Hope this helped,
JC
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06-23-2004, 11:02 PM
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Downpipe is way easy. The uppipe kicked my *** though. If I had to do again though, it would be a lot easier. It's just a matter of knowing what you're doing. I would highly suggest trying to find someone that has done an uppipe to help you.
06-23-2004, 11:56 PM
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I did a full exhaust system with a buddy not to long ago. The biggest hassel i honestly had fell into two categories.
1) wrenching a bolt was in an akward posistion
2) up pipe was a major pain to squeeze out of its origional spot
Solved first problem with a breaker bar i own which allows a few more degrees of angle with the socket
Second problem was just a matter of turning it to the right a little getting the EGT off and pushing it out. I suppose i did it the hard way but i couldn't get it to drop down.
1) wrenching a bolt was in an akward posistion
2) up pipe was a major pain to squeeze out of its origional spot
Solved first problem with a breaker bar i own which allows a few more degrees of angle with the socket
Second problem was just a matter of turning it to the right a little getting the EGT off and pushing it out. I suppose i did it the hard way but i couldn't get it to drop down.
06-24-2004, 06:15 AM
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It took me 8 hours for the uppipe install, working by myself. It should have been less but everything that could have gone wrong, did.
I suggest you have a socket extension and a flex adapter it will make your life easier. I never would have finished without 'em. I followed these instructions, they are very thorough: http://www.vishnutuning.com/files/Up...stallation.doc
I suggest you have a socket extension and a flex adapter it will make your life easier. I never would have finished without 'em. I followed these instructions, they are very thorough: http://www.vishnutuning.com/files/Up...stallation.doc
06-24-2004, 07:35 AM
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I agree with most posts here. Your experience is a big factor. I feel pretty strong about my skills to turn bolts and work on mechanicle things. I've put suspensions on Jeeps (keep in mind they are pretty simple) and have done a decent amount of matenience on those Jeeps (cause off-roading isn't good for wheel bearings). When it came to doing the Up and Downpipe install I didn't have a garage to work with. So I asked a friend who worked at a garage if he could help me. Well to say the least it took three hours from bringing the car in and driving the car out with an oil change. But that was with air tools and all the goodies you could imagine. I could imagine trying to do it in the parkinglot of my Apt. with floor jacks and my set of tools easily going beyond 5 hours just because the Up Pipe is a pain in the A**.
Find someone who has all the tools and buy him/her some beer.
Find someone who has all the tools and buy him/her some beer.
06-28-2004, 11:43 AM
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heh well i guess it sounds like i shouldn't try this myself. I suppose I could just ask my dad to do it, as he owns his own repair shop. I just wanted to see if i could try it myself, and try and learn some new things, but I don't think that would be in my best interest. Thank you all for responding.
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06-28-2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by allxusedxup
also, can anyone tell me what kind of gas mileage to expect if i install the up/down pipes and cat back exhaust. Will it fluxuate greatly in either direction (better or worse gas mileage). thanks again.
Gas milage it seems has more to do with how heavy your foot is and what stage ECU program you are using then basic mods.
You drive normal and you wont notice a thing. Pedel to the metal and watch the gas get sucked dry.
07-01-2004, 01:43 PM
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A shop here wanted $100 to do the install of a dp. I have the apartment problem too. I have all my own tools, jacks, stands, ramps, etc. but just don't have space.
I didn't ask about the up, but I suspect it's more.
I didn't ask about the up, but I suspect it's more.
07-01-2004, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sykosis
A shop here wanted $100 to do the install of a dp. I have the apartment problem too. I have all my own tools, jacks, stands, ramps, etc. but just don't have space.
I didn't ask about the up, but I suspect it's more.
I didn't ask about the up, but I suspect it's more.
Honestly that sounds like a good deal.
However you can ask MPJ and other dealers for price quotes (call them if you like)
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