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A few ?'s ECU....CATS....Turbo vf30 or 34

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Old 08-17-2004 | 04:53 PM
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Talking A few ?'s ECU....CATS....Turbo vf30 or 34

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I am about to make a few major changes to my 02WRX. I need a little help. If
I buy an all ready tuned ecu USED will my mileage be controled from that ecu. eg I have 20k he has 40k. Will mine change to 40k? Next is which cat to eliminate. Mid pipe or Down pipe. I was planning on getting a Turbo back with high flow cat.
Final question is regaurding Turbos. Will I see a big improvement going from a VF30 to a VF34.

Thanks for any help I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on these mods
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Old 08-17-2004 | 08:38 PM
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The old 30 vs. 34 debate has been ongoing and nothing has been proven. Neglible differences so if you have one, I wouldn't switch to another.
Old 08-17-2004 | 10:25 PM
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The mileage is stored in your gauge cluster.

If you are going to run someone else's ECU, you need to run that person's EXACT mod setup. No different intakes or downpipes in particular. If he had cats, you need cats and vice versa. The best bet is to have whoever tuned his ecu retune it for your car.
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the advantage of getting an all ready tuned ECU is that , IIRC, it all ready has the the licensing for Ecutek software. So to get it retuned for your setup would cost far less than getting an original Ecutek license.

But you should get a used UTEC anyway and not have to deal with this silliness

Don't waste your time with a vf30. Not a bad turbo, just that the 34 has slightly better features and usually costs less because it is what the subaru shops buy in bulk.

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Old 08-17-2004 | 10:46 PM
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oops missed one... don't get a hi flo cat. there's been lotsa discussion about this lately on the ej20 forum. search around.

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Old 08-18-2004 | 06:14 AM
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Thanks for the info, Why do some say no Cat in the dp? Should I go with the mid pipe cat? Won't I get cells poping up. In regaurds to the ECU I am going to get a reflash.

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Originally Posted by Fubawu
Thanks for the info, Why do some say no Cat in the dp? Should I go with the mid pipe cat? Won't I get cells poping up. In regaurds to the ECU I am going to get a reflash.

John

Your cats are in the up pipe (pre cat) and two in the downpipe

I think you would have to splice some wires to run a o2 sensor to the midpipe as you'd prolly need long wires. If you remove the cat the o2 sensor will say cat inefficiency but there are electronic fixes for that easily spliced in and installed.

I'd also like to point out your in the glass tranny era which means too much power and your bound to strip gears even with normal driving. Perhaps its time to look at a 6mt tranny from an sti.
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What would the limit be on the stock tranny?
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Originally Posted by Fubawu
What would the limit be on the stock tranny?
John
Horsepower limit: maybe 450

Torque limit: maybe 350-375

Clutch drop limit: ZERO

If you want to beat on your car and drive it hard, you need to do some tranny work. RA gears at a minimum, 6MT to be certain it will never fail.
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With that much power ^ you'd probably have to baby it if you were on the stock tranny.
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Yeah, the better you are at driving, the more power the transmission can handle.

The S-Squared shop project car has a Garrett GT28RS turbo on a stock WRX transmission, but Nate knows how to drive. If I got behind the wheel, I'd toast it within 10 laps.
Old 08-22-2004 | 06:45 AM
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Thanks for the info guys, I settled on a VF30 price was too good to pass!
Sti Pinks again great price and a Walbro pump. Interms of Exhaust I am going with a Helix set up with a cat in dp. I need one cat or else. They are pretty strict up here! With my ECU tuned what type of power can I expect?
Thanks
John
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