Cobb stage 1 and running lean?
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Cobb stage 1 and running lean?
I have my Accessport orderd and when it comes in I plan on running stage 1 untill I can afford the TBE. I read a thread @ nasioc that said that people that had cobb reflashes and dynoed the car afterwards were running very lean (no proof). The reason I went with the Cobb accessport is because of Cobbs reputation of selling the most safe off the shelf maps. If any of you have dynoed your car after a Cobb reflash and you know your ARF please tell me the results along with the other modifications you have. I'm sure there is nothing to worry about but I would feel better if I heard it from someone that has some proof to back it up unlike the person in the thread on nasioc.
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I don't know about running lean, but I have an AP and have been hearing a lot about people getting a lot of pinging and high egt's. I wonder what all the madness is about?
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I just installed my Stg 1 AP a few days ago. On the very first day I was doing pulls on the freeway in 80 degree weather. It pinged during one pull (uphill in 4th gear) and the ECU has learned it's lesson. It hasn't pinged since then.
The first day I was very disapointed. I was pissed off because it pinged (one time) and it didn't increase my power. I was maxing out at about 11.8 PSI, which is below stock. This was on an 80 degree day.
The second day, power was a little better and boost was maxing out at about 13.8.
Third day, there was a notable increase in power and boost is now maxing out at about 14.3.
The power increase is nice, but the drivability of the car is WAAAAY better than stock. Power and boost increase in a much more linear and predictable fasion. I'm runing stage 1 91 octane... can't wait to get a turbo back and go to stage 2!
I have heard of people not hitting boost targets, but this may be during the learning process of the ECU. I was pretty unhappy during the first day when I was only hitting 11 PSI. Give it time to learn and you should be fine. Make sure you buy good quality gas (Chevron, 76, etc) and stay away from sketchy stations... lower octane might cause some pings/detonation.
The first day I was very disapointed. I was pissed off because it pinged (one time) and it didn't increase my power. I was maxing out at about 11.8 PSI, which is below stock. This was on an 80 degree day.
The second day, power was a little better and boost was maxing out at about 13.8.
Third day, there was a notable increase in power and boost is now maxing out at about 14.3.
The power increase is nice, but the drivability of the car is WAAAAY better than stock. Power and boost increase in a much more linear and predictable fasion. I'm runing stage 1 91 octane... can't wait to get a turbo back and go to stage 2!
I have heard of people not hitting boost targets, but this may be during the learning process of the ECU. I was pretty unhappy during the first day when I was only hitting 11 PSI. Give it time to learn and you should be fine. Make sure you buy good quality gas (Chevron, 76, etc) and stay away from sketchy stations... lower octane might cause some pings/detonation.
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Good question. I'd also like to know if people are having any kinds of problems with the AP. I am seriously thinking about getting it at some point.
Maybe the people that are running lean with Cobb reflashes have CAIs, are running the worng maps, etc., etc. ?
Maybe the people that are running lean with Cobb reflashes have CAIs, are running the worng maps, etc., etc. ?
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Originally Posted by TQuintin
I just installed my Stg 1 AP a few days ago. On the very first day I was doing pulls on the freeway in 80 degree weather. It pinged during one pull (uphill in 4th gear) and the ECU has learned it's lesson. It hasn't pinged since then.
The first day I was very disapointed. I was pissed off because it pinged (one time) and it didn't increase my power. I was maxing out at about 11.8 PSI, which is below stock. This was on an 80 degree day.
The second day, power was a little better and boost was maxing out at about 13.8.
Third day, there was a notable increase in power and boost is now maxing out at about 14.3.
The power increase is nice, but the drivability of the car is WAAAAY better than stock. Power and boost increase in a much more linear and predictable fasion. I'm runing stage 1 91 octane... can't wait to get a turbo back and go to stage 2!
I have heard of people not hitting boost targets, but this may be during the learning process of the ECU. I was pretty unhappy during the first day when I was only hitting 11 PSI. Give it time to learn and you should be fine. Make sure you buy good quality gas (Chevron, 76, etc) and stay away from sketchy stations... lower octane might cause some pings/detonation.
The first day I was very disapointed. I was pissed off because it pinged (one time) and it didn't increase my power. I was maxing out at about 11.8 PSI, which is below stock. This was on an 80 degree day.
The second day, power was a little better and boost was maxing out at about 13.8.
Third day, there was a notable increase in power and boost is now maxing out at about 14.3.
The power increase is nice, but the drivability of the car is WAAAAY better than stock. Power and boost increase in a much more linear and predictable fasion. I'm runing stage 1 91 octane... can't wait to get a turbo back and go to stage 2!
I have heard of people not hitting boost targets, but this may be during the learning process of the ECU. I was pretty unhappy during the first day when I was only hitting 11 PSI. Give it time to learn and you should be fine. Make sure you buy good quality gas (Chevron, 76, etc) and stay away from sketchy stations... lower octane might cause some pings/detonation.
Thanks for the info. I think I will try Vishnu's quick learning trick and see if I can avoid the 2 day delay and ping. I have 45k on my WRX and have never put anything but 93 octane Mobile gas in it. We dont have Chevron here in St. Louis.
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Originally Posted by esracer
That's nice to know about the learning process before I get freaked out when I get my accessport, good post bro.
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I'm on AP stage 1 for about a month now, so far I'm okay. Here is a link to Cobb's explanation, if you haven't seen it yet.
http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=11;t=000339
http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=11;t=000339
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Originally Posted by IntraWRX
I'm on AP stage 1 for about a month now, so far I'm okay. Here is a link to Cobb's explanation, if you haven't seen it yet.
http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=11;t=000339
http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=11;t=000339
Thanks for the link.
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