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why does unichip suck?

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Old 01-15-2003, 01:16 PM
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Re: Limitations of Unichips

Originally posted by Vishnu
1) Didn’t know what one was tuning on top of.
--Couldn’t account for spikes or dips in underlying ignition timing or fuel delivery
2) Didn’t have the resolution commensurate of the underlying maps
--Had to make compromise in one map cell in favor of another
3) No control of open/closed loop transitions
--Partial throttle knock correction/de-tuning
--Unexpected long-term fuel corrections
--Hesitations/EGT problems
4) Poor crank angle signal replication
--Induced misfire CEL
--Induced erratic knock correction activity
--Engine roughness/hard starting
5) Not enough software/hardware flexibility for different tuning approaches
6) No control of stock knock control system
7) No influence over stock closed-loop boost control system
--Eliminated all factory boost compensations and safety margin management
8) No user-programmability to account for car-to-car variance

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Shiv,

So what effect does the EMI adapter have on the items you mentioned above?
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Old 01-16-2003, 09:47 AM
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EMI Adapter

The EMI Adapter eliminates one (albeit the biggest, IMHO) problem associated with standard Unichip applications. It controls open/closed loop fuel control transitions which greatly improves partial throttle/full boost performance. Gets ride of the majority of hesitations that have bothered people for some time. One reason why there is so much "Unichip sucks" (it doesn't really) talk is because there have been other options. The one I'm most familiar with is the reflash which has yet to show any downsides as far as drivability is concerned. It's also capable of support substantially more power than the Unichip.

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Old 01-17-2003, 05:52 AM
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Re: EMI Adapter

Originally posted by Vishnu
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The one I'm most familiar with is the reflash which has yet to show any downsides as far as drivability is concerned. It's also capable of support substantially more power than the Unichip.
For a street-driven WRX, is there any reason to run a stand-alone engine management system (ala TEC-III, etc.) or is the re-mapped factory ECU a better choice in most circumstances? I'm asking the question from the viewpoint of someone who might be running a turbo upgrade, big injectors, big intercooler, and turbo back exhaust, but doesn't plan on doing any fine-tuning, instead relying on either an off-the-shelf map or a dyno tune. Does one system offer better performance than the other in this (street-driven) situation?

I see also that Vishnu Performance now offers the XEDE control system that can store more than one tuning map. I take it that it is now possible to revert from say a Stage 0 setting back to the factory map for reasons such as dealer servicing, emissions testing, etc., or to a race gas map for track days. Is the map switching in the XEDE accomplished through a manual switch or software via laptop?

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