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Old 11-11-2003, 04:31 PM
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knocks with base maps (utec)

so im getting a crap load of knocks and i dont know what to do or where to start with (fuel,boost,time)maps modification.
my curent set up is a stage 2 wrx runing base maps boost is set to 15.5
here is what i get:

4616 095 +7.2 80 +22.6 rich 00000
4714 095 +12.9 90 +23.2 rich 00000
4782 095 +15.5 90 +23.3 rich 00000
4866 095 +16.1 80 +23.8 rich 00000
4967 095 +15.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5096 095 +14.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5120 095 +14.3 70 +24.0 rich 00000
5385 095 +14.3 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5376 095 +14.1 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5482 095 +14.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5592 095 +14.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5649 095 +14.3 70 +24.0 rich 00000
5807 095 +13.7 70 +24.0 rich 00000
5817 095 +13.3 70 +24.3 rich 00000
5941 094 +13.3 80 +25.0 rich 00000
6049 095 +13.5 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6049 095 +13.7 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6138 095 +13.7 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6218 095 +13.5 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6301 095 +13.7 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6325 095 +13.7 80 +25.0 rich 00000
6535 095 +13.3 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6497 095 +13.7 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6587 095 +12.9 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6626 095 +12.1 60 +25.0 rich 00000
6872 095 +12.3 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6802 095 +12.3 70 +25.0 rich 00000
6666 001 +11.0 00 ECU. rich 00000
6289 000 +6.2 00 ECU. rich 00000
6289 065 +1.5 10 ECU. 15.2 00000
5005 095 +0.4 20 ECU. rich 00015
4844 095 +3.3 80 +15.4 rich 00000
4990 095 +9.4 90 +15.7 rich 00000
5012 095 +14.7 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5136 095 +15.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
4990 095 +14.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5167 095 +15.3 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5257 095 +15.9 90 +24.0 rich 00000
5232 095 +15.7 90 +24.0 rich 00000
5291 095 +15.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5216 095 +15.1 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5367 095 +14.3 70 +24.0 rich 00000
5385 094 +14.5 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5333 095 +14.3 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5376 095 +14.7 80 +16.0 rich 00001
5393 095 +15.5 90 +16.0 rich 00000
5420 095 +15.9 90 +16.0 rich 00000
5537 094 +15.9 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5592 095 +16.1 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5546 091 +15.5 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5602 091 +15.1 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5621 091 +15.3 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5630 091 +14.9 80 +16.0 rich 00003
5678 091 +14.5 70 +16.1 rich 00000
5767 091 +14.5 80 +16.0 rich 00000
5678 091 +14.7 80 +24.0 rich 00000
5767 091 +14.7 80 +16.0 rich 00004
5787 091 +14.7 70 +16.4 rich 00000
5984 091 +14.7 80 +16.1 rich 00000

does the last numbers mean the amount of times i had a knock?
what can i do my self to stop this mess? besides get in it dyno tune?
any help will really appreciate it.......
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You need to read the manual, then you need to read the manual again.
There are 6 different data loggers. You need to know what you are logging.
It appears that you have not calibrated your TPS, and if that isn't calibrated then you haven't calibrated your MAP, either.
Read the manual.

It is very bad to guess what you are doing because you will probably blow up your motor.
Read the manual.

Once you have figured out what you are logging, post your logs.
Logger #1 is good.

EDIT: Calibrating your TPS and MAP just MIGHT eliminate your problems.
Also, what are your other mods?

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Old 11-12-2003, 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Uncle Scotty
You need to read the manual, then you need to read the manual again.
There are 6 different data loggers. You need to know what you are logging.
It appears that you have not calibrated your TPS, and if that isn't calibrated then you haven't calibrated your MAP, either.
Read the manual.

It is very bad to guess what you are doing because you will probably blow up your motor.
Read the manual.

Once you have figured out what you are logging, post your logs.
Logger #1 is good.

EDIT: Calibrating your TPS and MAP just MIGHT eliminate your problems.
Also, what are your other mods?
when you say "Calibrating your TPS" do you mean to turn the values up or down to meet what ? my engine mods are:
turbo smart 50/50 blow off valve
turbo xs standar boost controler
perrin up-pipe
invidia quite turbo back
utec
other stuff but they dont relate to the engine. i also have a egt gage the temps are normal.
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Old 11-12-2003, 04:16 PM
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See UTEC user manual, rev. 3.1, p.34-35.

The search function is helpful. wrxhackers.com is a most important scource of UTEC info as is NASIOC.

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wrspeed what do knock sound like, and are they noticable? please give me best description, like where it comes from etc i'd highly appreciate it
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Uncle Scotty
See UTEC user manual, rev. 3.1, p.34-35.

The search function is helpful. wrxhackers.com is a most important scource of UTEC info as is NASIOC.
I'm on NASIOC most of the time but does guy's dont like to help newbies, all they do is flame at you, like they knew what they where doing at first.also try to search but no luck!
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Originally posted by nic3krnnamja83
wrspeed what do knock sound like, and are they noticable? please give me best description, like where it comes from etc i'd highly appreciate it
I never heard it, well maybe once but i'm not sure it was like puffshhhhhhhhhh then the engine almost stall to a stop i let off the gas and drove reall carefull back home.

what usually happens is that i get on the gas 1st, 2nd, 3rd and about 4500 rpms i get a check engine light flashing and the power starts to die and comes back then it dies and comes back
but in a quick way, i guess is timing been pull by the utec.

im going to try to take some fuel from the map cause I read that
they are too rich and that might cause it to detonate or knock.
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Originally posted by wrspeed
I'm on NASIOC most of the time but does guy's dont like to help newbies, all they do is flame at you, like they knew what they where doing at first.also try to search but no luck!
If you can't learn how to use the UTEC, sell it and get a re-flash.
All the information is on the internet, somewhere....find it----read it, and if you can't figure it out get rid of it.

It is SO irritating to read so many people who want their asses wiped for them.
If you don't know what you are doing, stop doing it.
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Old 11-20-2003, 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Uncle Scotty
If you can't learn how to use the UTEC, sell it and get a re-flash.
All the information is on the internet, somewhere....find it----read it, and if you can't figure it out get rid of it.

It is SO irritating to read so many people who want their asses wiped for them.
If you don't know what you are doing, stop doing it.
so what you are sayng is that you never asked no question about your utec cause you are so smart, more idiots like you is what the forums needs so the day we have a get-together you tuff guys can say the same things and we'll see how that goes,
i bet you are feeling so brave right now!!!!!!!
next time you dont have nothing to do with your fingers used them to find your brains in your anusssssssssssss
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Originally posted by wrspeed
so what you are sayng is that you never asked no question about your utec cause you are so smart, more idiots like you is what the forums needs so the day we have a get-together you tuff guys can say the same things and we'll see how that goes,
i bet you are feeling so brave right now!!!!!!!
next time you dont have nothing to do with your fingers used them to find your brains in your anusssssssssssss
Scotty, i think you asked the question wrong...

I've read my autronic manual 5 times so far. I've read the e-manage manual 3 times, etc, etc. Wrspeed, how many times HAVE you read the manual?
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Originally posted by Turboxs_Nathan
You are getting detonation at a low load site where the STOCK ECU is in control. You need to map your base-map timing down to cover the lower load sites.

Pull 1 degree of timing from the higher load sites at higher RPMS to get rid of the 5500 rpm and up detonation.

-Nathan
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Nathan thank you verry much for your time !!
in a couple of months i'll be giving you guys a call to get dyno tune.
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