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Old 08-16-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by STiYLIN
About once a week so far. I race with 100 and drive around on 91.

It takes way more time and effort to tune with Ecutek vs Cobb, that's just how it is.
you tune??


please see the 03 ecu

defroster button
Old 08-16-2007 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
you tune??


please see the 03 ecu

defroster button
The OP has an '05 wagon, does this defroster button thing work you are eluding to on his ecu?

I don't tune anything but my AVCR

I am however lucky enough to pick Mikes brain and on a couple of occasions pick Paul's and Ed's (Man are we lucky in NorCal! :RockOn - not mine: ). I think all three are in agreement about the ECutek, Mike and Paul have a lot of experience with that unit I know. Ecutek has abandoned us for the euro market.

Point is where are the nifty features and advantages over the Cobb, I have give you examples of added features and you seem to dismiss them. I just didn't see any advantage with my Ecutek I rocked for two years. Benn on Cobb for about a month and I am seriously impressed with the 2.0
Old 08-16-2007 | 01:52 PM
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The OP has an '05 wagon, does this defroster button thing work you are eluding to on his ecu?

I don't tune anything but my AVCR

I am however lucky enough to pick Mikes brain and on a couple of occasions pick Paul's and Ed's (Man are we lucky in NorCal! :RockOn - not mine: ). I think all three are in agreement about the ECutek, Mike and Paul have a lot of experience with that unit I know. Ecutek has abandoned us for the euro market.

Point is where are the nifty features and advantages over the Cobb, I have give you examples of added features and you seem to dismiss them. I just didn't see any advantage with my Ecutek I rocked for two years. Benn on Cobb for about a month and I am seriously impressed with the 2.0
ok you never adressed the first thing of price so if you want to go in chronological order start from the top

so you dont tune so its hear say with no actual experience?

i agree ecutek has pretty much abandond teh us

they had some crappy program where tehy had to teach you how to tune in person before you got the software and you couldnt be near any of thier other dealers near you. so they werent helping themselfs

then there was teh lic fee of ilike 300-400 $ i forget off hand

so you got 600 for a 1k$ tune after insurance and shop or what ever you didnt do too well

open ecu is free software and you can buy the interface if you want

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Old 08-16-2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
ok you never adressed the first thing of price so if you want to go in chronological order start from the top

so you dont tune so its hear say with no actual experience?

i agree ecutek has pretty much abandond teh us

they had some crappy program where tehy had to teach you how to tune in person before you got the software and you couldnt be near any of thier other dealers near you. so they werent helping themselfs

then there was teh lic fee of ilike 300-400 $ i forget off hand

so you got 600 for a 1k$ tune after insurance and shop or what ever you didnt do too well

open ecu is free software and you can buy the interface if you want
I just don't know how you can toss it all off to "hear say"

Not only do I have experience to talking to tuners in the flesh about it, I have experience on the customer side. I have used both Ecutek and Cobb. My only experience with Open Ecu was to data log. Not all of us, even half of us are ready to tune our cars. My comfort level is just not there.

Sure open ECU is a cheap route, what the question was about was Ecutek vs Cobb. You are trying to have an entirely different discussion here.
Old 08-16-2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
i have an 03

defroster button FTW

and ill be honest im thinking open ecu not ecutec


how often do you switch maps
i had the utec and had the damn switch and never used it

utec has launch control
i found my self launching it better with out it
unless you can launch in boost with cobb then yeah totally if you are drag racing well worth it

no idea what flat foot shifting is or why you need it


the lesser tune and harder for the tuner is all on the tuner
post 7

where does teh OP say protune?

heard from tuners and you say what they say is hear say i thought that was the definition.

tuning car is easy to screw up and blow a motor. tuners blow up motors thats why tehy have insurance. nothing is for sure. then they get tehy well iwent on the dyno and got this number but joe on nasioc has the same thing and got 15 mroe HP whats up with that? tune my car better
Old 08-16-2007 | 05:08 PM
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this isnt going anywhere guys
Old 08-16-2007 | 05:47 PM
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its going to bickering and petty stuff
Old 08-20-2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Friedenreich686
So I am reading all the threads and half the people say that love their cobb setup, but on the othere hand I have spoken to people the swear by ECUTECK. What are the ups and downs versus each and your opinion what would you suggest to get. By the way I am driving a 2005 WRX wagon 5 spd. and I am to install the 3 inch turbo back exhust I have once I have a tune. I also live in Arizona where it reachs on average 100 degrees every dayt for about 3 months straight in th summer.
I have an ECUTek on my car, since it came on it when I bought it used. For a long time, I kept thinking, WOW now that the AP has protuner is soo much better since it has that little unit that allows you to pull CELs, switch maps, etc.

Then I found out about Delta Dash, I still don't know a whole lot about it, but it can be an extremely useful tool to use. Similar to the AP that lets you switch maps, DD can store as many maps as you want, and as long as you have your laptop, can switch out or tweak anything. Since it's on a laptop, you can log data, you can get emails from your tuner with any changes to a map if you find anything not to your liking, and I'm sure thousands of features I don't even know about.

Also remember, AFAIK Subaru WRC team uses ECUTek.
Old 08-20-2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
I have an ECUTek on my car, since it came on it when I bought it used. For a long time, I kept thinking, WOW now that the AP has protuner is soo much better since it has that little unit that allows you to pull CELs, switch maps, etc.

Then I found out about Delta Dash, I still don't know a whole lot about it, but it can be an extremely useful tool to use. Similar to the AP that lets you switch maps, DD can store as many maps as you want, and as long as you have your laptop, can switch out or tweak anything. Since it's on a laptop, you can log data, you can get emails from your tuner with any changes to a map if you find anything not to your liking, and I'm sure thousands of features I don't even know about.

Also remember, AFAIK Subaru WRC team uses ECUTek.
DD is just software and the Enthusiast runs $500 (pro is about $1k), and $500 for the Ecutek license and $200 for a protune. Idk if Ecutek dealers are offering deals like Cobb's when you buy the unit from the tuner and have a toon done by them @ the same time they cut you a price break.

I dunno but I like the hand held even though I have a laptop just for the car.

You do bring up some good points.
Old 08-20-2007 | 02:09 PM
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this isnt going anywhere guys

You noticed???
Old 08-20-2007 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
I have an ECUTek on my car, since it came on it when I bought it used. For a long time, I kept thinking, WOW now that the AP has protuner is soo much better since it has that little unit that allows you to pull CELs, switch maps, etc.

Then I found out about Delta Dash, I still don't know a whole lot about it, but it can be an extremely useful tool to use. Similar to the AP that lets you switch maps, DD can store as many maps as you want, and as long as you have your laptop, can switch out or tweak anything. Since it's on a laptop, you can log data, you can get emails from your tuner with any changes to a map if you find anything not to your liking, and I'm sure thousands of features I don't even know about.

Also remember, AFAIK Subaru WRC team uses ECUTek.
http://www.swrt.com/the_team/the_car_engine.html

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Old 08-20-2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
http://www.swrt.com/the_team/the_car_engine.html

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OOps, I thought since Prodrive used the ECUTek so would the WRC team.
Old 08-21-2007 | 02:02 PM
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it doesnt say a brand name but it makes it sound like subaru can hack thier own ecu

but that means you would have to make a program available or have a subaru person there all the time


i dunno if the stock ecu can run all that crazy extra stuff
Old 08-21-2007 | 06:15 PM
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Where is the OP? Are you planning to toon or protoon?
Old 08-22-2007 | 10:10 AM
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Where is the OP? Are you planning to toon or protoon?
HAHAHA i know he posted this, then we got into it

30 posts later i dont see him any more if he has any more questions or not
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