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Old 08-10-2007 | 11:52 PM
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Exclamation ECUTEK or Cobb Accessport

So I am reading all the threads and half the people say that love their cobb setup, but on the othere hand I have spoken to people the swear by ECUTECK. What are the ups and downs versus each and your opinion what would you suggest to get. By the way I am driving a 2005 WRX wagon 5 spd. and I am to install the 3 inch turbo back exhust I have once I have a tune. I also live in Arizona where it reachs on average 100 degrees every dayt for about 3 months straight in th summer.
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ecutec is bettAr


its a custom tune for your care


cobb is a map for eveyrone


and every tuner will tell you no two motors are the same
if you and your friend have the same car same mods one will do better than the other

thats the way it is
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Here's a novel idea...get an AccessPORT -AND- protune.
More features, etc.
Old 08-16-2007 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Here's a novel idea...get an AccessPORT -AND- protune.
More features, etc.
what are the more features?

how much does a accessport cost + proture?
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Well coming from the Ecutek and going to the Cobb AP 2.0 there isn't even a comparison between the two.

1st the Ecutek will frustrate your tuner. They can edit crap in real time. This makes tunning take longer, be harder on your car, and usually results in a "lesser" tune.

The Cobb AP is user friendly, tuner friendly, and you can run more than one single map (Ecutek only does 1 map).

Plus if you get the AP2.0 you get some nifty features like Launch Control and Flat Foot Shifting.
Old 08-16-2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
what are the more features?

how much does a accessport cost + proture?
Real Time Map switching

Multiple gas maps

Flat Foot Shifting

Launch Control <---Hella SIACK!

Data logging

An AP and tune can run you about $700 if you know the right people.

A Ecutek will cost you $400+ for the unit and I bet you money you will pay the standard tunning fee and get no breaks because of the time involved with tunning the Ecutek. So about $650 plus for the Ecutek w/tune.

Also I know on the tuners side they have access to change more and "unlock" more of the ECU.
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Well coming from the Ecutek and going to the Cobb AP 2.0 there isn't even a comparison between the two.

1st the Ecutek will frustrate your tuner. They can edit crap in real time. This makes tunning take longer, be harder on your car, and usually results in a "lesser" tune.

The Cobb AP is user friendly, tuner friendly, and you can run more than one single map (Ecutek only does 1 map).

Plus if you get the AP2.0 you get some nifty features like Launch Control and Flat Foot Shifting.
i have an 03

defroster button FTW

and ill be honest im thinking open ecu not ecutec


how often do you switch maps
i had the utec and had the damn switch and never used it

utec has launch control
i found my self launching it better with out it
unless you can launch in boost with cobb then yeah totally if you are drag racing well worth it

no idea what flat foot shifting is or why you need it


the lesser tune and harder for the tuner is all on the tuner
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
the lesser tune and harder for the tuner is all on the tuner
My time = Your $$$.
Old 08-16-2007 | 01:13 PM
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Hydra FTW. Between these two I'd go AP all day. A good tuner can make a great map/maps with Street Tuner. In fact, they may have posted in this thread. ;-)
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
My time = Your $$$.
hahaha

i agree completely i think you should get paid for your time.


But I am not going to go to a tuner that uses cobb with my ecutec i would get a tuner that uses ecutec to tune. Just like im not going to a ecutec tuner when i have an AP. If you do ecutec or cobb all day of coarse you got your system down. if some one handed me an AEM EMS i wouuld have my head up my *** and be screwing with it for a while before i got the ins and outs of it. I am running a link now and its a standalone too but not the same. ive seen peeps tune the EMS and hell its a different layout and it would take a while to get it down


so after that long winded random paragraph ill say this im not going to a mitsu dealer to work on my subaru.
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
Hydra FTW. Between these two I'd go AP all day. A good tuner can make a great map/maps with Street Tuner. In fact, they may have posted in this thread. ;-)
do they still have the pro tuner software?

i agree paul does know his ****


either way get a custom map both sides of this can agree on that im sure
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
how often do you switch maps
i had the utec and had the damn switch and never used it


the lesser tune and harder for the tuner is all on the tuner
About once a week so far. I race with 100 and drive around on 91.

It takes way more time and effort to tune with Ecutek vs Cobb, that's just how it is.
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
do they still have the pro tuner software?

i agree paul does know his ****


either way get a custom map both sides of this can agree on that im sure
Yeah, personally I'd just go with whatever your quality local tuner likes. He's the one that'll be doing the tuning and if he's proven himself well on it you'll get a good tune either way.

With that said, the Cobb is a good option if you're far from a tuner. Ask Paul what he thinks, I'd personally get the tune from him. I haven't heard anything but good stuff.
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
But I am not going to go to a tuner that uses cobb with my ecutec i would get a tuner that uses ecutec to tune. Just like im not going to a ecutec tuner when i have an AP.
A good tuner can use both. His skill set be it high or low, it still takes more time to tune the Ecutek because you can't change maps in real time. You do a pull, write it all down and change, do another pull and rinse and repeat.

It's like Win98 I can install hardware and get it to work on the network, but XP has more features and is a lot more friendly to admin, as well as for the user.

Both work, one is better.

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Old 08-16-2007 | 01:28 PM
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OH ill say this last bit


DONT GET A LINK!!!!!!!!!!


both sides can also agree on that haha



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