WRX vs. Everyone
12-08-2003, 04:57 PM
#31
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meilers,
When you say you were shifting the rex at 5000rpms to keep up, what was your throttle position like? Yes, when not in turbo throttle position, the car is not up to par to 3.5L V6. But, its nice to know that when you go peddle to the floor and so does the maxima, you can at least hang with a car that has an extra two cylinders and 1.5 liters of displacement!
When you say you were shifting the rex at 5000rpms to keep up, what was your throttle position like? Yes, when not in turbo throttle position, the car is not up to par to 3.5L V6. But, its nice to know that when you go peddle to the floor and so does the maxima, you can at least hang with a car that has an extra two cylinders and 1.5 liters of displacement!
12-08-2003, 10:10 PM
#32
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My 2002 WRX is my first F/A car, but I definitely know when the turbo is spinning up 
I tend to drive with the radio off, just so I can hear it! I didn't go "FOF" until 5th gear; I tend to lay on the gas until I hear the turbo spin up/feel it kick in and then hold steady. Flat on the floor just feels like you've hit your limit and can't go any further; I'd say my foot was 8/10ths to the floor.
I tend to drive with the radio off, just so I can hear it! I didn't go "FOF" until 5th gear; I tend to lay on the gas until I hear the turbo spin up/feel it kick in and then hold steady. Flat on the floor just feels like you've hit your limit and can't go any further; I'd say my foot was 8/10ths to the floor.
12-15-2003, 05:11 PM
#33
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S2000 I beat one but it would depend on the driver i'd say, I ran with him twice, got him both times
330 ci - i beat him twice with total 5 people in my car and only 2 in his
any WV...
many hondas, integras...
330 ci - i beat him twice with total 5 people in my car and only 2 in his
any WV...
many hondas, integras...
01-05-2004, 10:44 AM
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I see it by just looking at the 1/4mile times. This past weekend I "dug" into a Z28 in my stock WRX up untill 120mph then we had to let off. I also raced a RSX Type S from a 60mph roll. I was behind him the whole time and he could'nt pull from me at all. 15.2 stock compaired to a 14.4. Hmmmm.
I feel the WRX is best at off the line. You really have to "drive" this car. Keep the rpm's up high and this thing will suck you into the seat. To me....it pulls like crazy!
I feel the WRX is best at off the line. You really have to "drive" this car. Keep the rpm's up high and this thing will suck you into the seat. To me....it pulls like crazy!
01-06-2004, 11:50 AM
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I suck at the whole of the line thing, maybe it's because i don't really like slipping/burning the clutch. My cousing just got a 20th AE GTi. He's putting on an exhaust and APR chip. I'll run him and then report.
01-06-2004, 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by ScoobyStas
I suck at the whole of the line thing, maybe it's because i don't really like slipping/burning the clutch. My cousing just got a 20th AE GTi. He's putting on an exhaust and APR chip. I'll run him and then report.
I suck at the whole of the line thing, maybe it's because i don't really like slipping/burning the clutch. My cousing just got a 20th AE GTi. He's putting on an exhaust and APR chip. I'll run him and then report.
You should take him...
01-07-2004, 05:57 AM
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cobb stg 2 + uppipe and IC hoses.
01-07-2004, 06:31 AM
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To answer a question, the maxima sucks in the 1/4 mile, the 350z depends who is driving it I guess, the 330 ci got owned going uphill(stunk up my clutch a little) and a 740iL is even till about 100 or so. Its all up to the driver and how you launch that puppy when go against cars like the maxima(sux, looks like **** too)350z and cars like made by Volkswagon just weigh so damn much they cannot(maybe will not) make an engine to propel those things to hang with us Scooby owners. For $23,500 brand new, I think things like the 350z, maxima,Rx8, 330ci, ford mustangs are way overpriced for the perfromance you get. Why would I buy a $32,000 car when some kid in his WRX with $500 worth of mods would own me?
01-07-2004, 06:42 AM
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True...
This morning coming to work I pulled up next to a Mustang Cobra (not SVT supercharged). He had exhaust and intake by the sound of it. My car has barely 1500 miles on it.
So green we go. I bog a little of the line. Then the boost kicks in and I straight pull on him. Tap the rev limiter (still haven't had my coffee yet... I know)
. 2nd gear...he jumps then I jump right back and get a fender length on him into 3rd. We both let off, give the thumbs up and go our separate ways!
Please note: my REX is stock!
Kills:
RSX Type S
Mustang Cobra (not SVT)
This morning coming to work I pulled up next to a Mustang Cobra (not SVT supercharged). He had exhaust and intake by the sound of it. My car has barely 1500 miles on it.
So green we go. I bog a little of the line. Then the boost kicks in and I straight pull on him. Tap the rev limiter (still haven't had my coffee yet... I know)
. 2nd gear...he jumps then I jump right back and get a fender length on him into 3rd. We both let off, give the thumbs up and go our separate ways! Please note: my REX is stock!
Kills:
RSX Type S
Mustang Cobra (not SVT)
01-07-2004, 08:54 AM
#43
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2002 Impreza WRX: 3,125lb
2002 Jetta GLI (2.8L V6): 3,179lb
I hate to call BS on someone, but you are clearly not speaking from experience. The Jetta GLI isn't much heavier than a 2002/2004 WRX, and with a few mods can be made into a stock-WRX killer. Furthermore the Grand Touring 350z would dust a stock STI in a straight line, and a Maxima with the 3.2l engine will indeed pull away from you at highway speed -- I've tested this, driving both the WRX and the Maxima. The Nissan just has better top end, due to gearing and compression ratios.
I can name about a dozen production automobiles that right now, rolling off the line, could destroy a stock WRX in a 1/4 mile, and many of them could beat a modded Stage 2 WRX or an STI. If you trimmed that list down to cars that are $36,000 or less, the STI would be more competitive, but could still be beaten by an excellent driver. Need I mention the $18,970 (invoice price) Dodge SRT-4?
Ever try to race with a 1987 Grand National? Trust me, you'd lose -- against a car that cost $28k new and weighs well over two tons.
There are even some production pickup trucks and SUVs that can give a WRX a run for the money. Why? TORQUE -- something that forced-aspiration engines have a tough time generating.
Have you seen this list?
http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm
I have a lot of questions about some of the results, but the fact that the 2002-2004 WRX doesn't even make the list (but a 1993 Supra Turbo does) should sober up a few people out there.
Look, I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but to think of a WRX as a fast stop-light dragger is to totally miss the point of the design and engineering of the car. If you treat it like a SRT-4 and scream away from every stoplight in town, guess what? In two years you will need a new transmission, a new set of differentials (there are FIVE, each one shedding power as heat) and perhaps a cam gasket. Those of you running catless with a CAI and manual boost controllers may need new cyclinder heads or an entirely new engine.
Oh, and if you need a REAL reality check, I've got a friend with a 3,924lb Nissan 300ZX Fairlady (circa 1997) who will eat any WRX alive, modded or stock -- and make an STI owner sweat bullets. The only place you would beat him is on a dirt or gravel road with lots of twisty turns -- and that is where you were MEANT to beat him, because the WRX is engineered specifically for that purpose.
2002 Jetta GLI (2.8L V6): 3,179lb
I hate to call BS on someone, but you are clearly not speaking from experience. The Jetta GLI isn't much heavier than a 2002/2004 WRX, and with a few mods can be made into a stock-WRX killer. Furthermore the Grand Touring 350z would dust a stock STI in a straight line, and a Maxima with the 3.2l engine will indeed pull away from you at highway speed -- I've tested this, driving both the WRX and the Maxima. The Nissan just has better top end, due to gearing and compression ratios.
I can name about a dozen production automobiles that right now, rolling off the line, could destroy a stock WRX in a 1/4 mile, and many of them could beat a modded Stage 2 WRX or an STI. If you trimmed that list down to cars that are $36,000 or less, the STI would be more competitive, but could still be beaten by an excellent driver. Need I mention the $18,970 (invoice price) Dodge SRT-4?
Ever try to race with a 1987 Grand National? Trust me, you'd lose -- against a car that cost $28k new and weighs well over two tons.
There are even some production pickup trucks and SUVs that can give a WRX a run for the money. Why? TORQUE -- something that forced-aspiration engines have a tough time generating.
Have you seen this list?
http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm
I have a lot of questions about some of the results, but the fact that the 2002-2004 WRX doesn't even make the list (but a 1993 Supra Turbo does) should sober up a few people out there.
Look, I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but to think of a WRX as a fast stop-light dragger is to totally miss the point of the design and engineering of the car. If you treat it like a SRT-4 and scream away from every stoplight in town, guess what? In two years you will need a new transmission, a new set of differentials (there are FIVE, each one shedding power as heat) and perhaps a cam gasket. Those of you running catless with a CAI and manual boost controllers may need new cyclinder heads or an entirely new engine.
Oh, and if you need a REAL reality check, I've got a friend with a 3,924lb Nissan 300ZX Fairlady (circa 1997) who will eat any WRX alive, modded or stock -- and make an STI owner sweat bullets. The only place you would beat him is on a dirt or gravel road with lots of twisty turns -- and that is where you were MEANT to beat him, because the WRX is engineered specifically for that purpose.
Last edited by meilers; 01-07-2004 at 09:01 AM.
01-07-2004, 09:15 AM
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There are just too many opinions out there. Some people raced this, raced that... lost, won. Driving skill I think is the top of it!
Everyone should just see it off personal experience and call it that!
That site you linked us says the EVO runs a 13.9
C'mom now!
Everyone should just see it off personal experience and call it that!
That site you linked us says the EVO runs a 13.9
C'mom now!