WRX vs. Everyone
12-03-2003, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by whitelegacy98
maxima doesnt stand a chance...too big and heavy and FWD
maxima doesnt stand a chance...too big and heavy and FWD
12-03-2003, 10:01 PM
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i would just like to add that your spelling of the slang term for bmw is incorrect, it is spelled "bimmer." and a bmw motorcycle is a beamer. other wise a great thread, good stuff here 
12-03-2003, 11:53 PM
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Origami posted by Special---K
So how do a lot of today's cars stack up against the REX?
I haven't had a chance to go up against a lot of these cars and I've been curious
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So how do a lot of today's cars stack up against the REX?
I haven't had a chance to go up against a lot of these cars and I've been curious
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12-04-2003, 01:15 AM
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Upon re-reading your original post, it sure sounds like a street racing thread...
We all know most of the ppl here are talking about SRing.
On a Track or on the street and STi would be a great race for all those cars. I think on the track, if you have a stock WRX, the challenges would be:
M3 (E46)
Boxter (S)
M Roadster
350Z (track)
S2000 (2.2)
This is a 5 lap race and my .02
Just remember kids the WRX is atleast 8 grand less that all the above. If you take that 8 grand and do upgrades it would be a lovely race against either 1 of those cars but the M3 is hard to beat. Have Fun :banana:
12-04-2003, 04:24 PM
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I dont know bout us winning against the maxima...its got 30 torque and 35-40 hp on us...maybe 400+ lbs? it would be pretty close IMO...i dont know its track times or handling ability though...but my cousin has it, its one fun car according to him.
12-04-2003, 08:23 PM
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I'm surprised we'd do so well against S2k's.
300ZXTTs are stupid fast, what the 350z should have been.
How about the RX-8? About the same HP, but it's gotta weigh next to nothing.
Has anyone here ran an Audi S4 (previous generation, not the 2004 crazy fast ones)? I always wanted one, but ultimately stayed away due to reliability issues. I'd like to know how the WRX stacks up...
300ZXTTs are stupid fast, what the 350z should have been.
How about the RX-8? About the same HP, but it's gotta weigh next to nothing.
Has anyone here ran an Audi S4 (previous generation, not the 2004 crazy fast ones)? I always wanted one, but ultimately stayed away due to reliability issues. I'd like to know how the WRX stacks up...
12-04-2003, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by hashiriya
How about the RX-8? About the same HP, but it's gotta weigh next to nothing.
How about the RX-8? About the same HP, but it's gotta weigh next to nothing.
12-04-2003, 11:42 PM
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I drove an audi s4...wicked fast...all i have to say is you guys really pick some fast cars to trial on with a stock rex. I think the STI is a better comparison. Good luck! -Todd-
12-05-2003, 11:10 AM
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My bone stock WRX has beaten a 350Z, Maxima, 330i BMW, Audi A4 quattro 1.8, numerous souped-up Civics, VW Golf GLX, 1.8, and only lost to Z28 on the top end.
12-05-2003, 11:24 AM
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superdave,
In what type of race did you beat the listed vechiles. Highway, Stoplight? I don't believe the stock rex has much on the highway. 4th gear doesn't pull too well.
In what type of race did you beat the listed vechiles. Highway, Stoplight? I don't believe the stock rex has much on the highway. 4th gear doesn't pull too well.
12-07-2003, 08:30 AM
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If you are actually discussing street racing, then this is one of the more pointless threads I've seen here
I've got a "bone stock" (man, I hate that term) 2002 WRX and I drive it on the highway and street alongside many of the cars mentioned here. I'm going to come out and say what some of you are dancing around: if you bought a WRX to "own" other people on the street, your money was wasted. I'm a fairly serious driver; my first and second cars were a gray-market BMW 325i and a 911 Carerra (1983, pearl white -- I miss that car!) and I've driven just about everything I can get my hands on over the years.
I love my WRX; it is a fantastic machine for what it does. But to expect it to "own" cars with much higher power-to-weight ratios (which is where REAL performance is measured) and to "drag" against cars with RWD (and even FWD) when our power and torque is split between two differentials is just silly. It isn't what the car was designed for or meant for.
The 2002 WRX is frankly an underpowered car for its weight. I've got a friend with that 3.5 liter Maxima you sneered at; that car will kick your *** any day of the week. He and I drove out on the highway together, and I told him to just drive normally, not to punch it (his is automatic.) To keep up with him I had to shift well above 5k RPM; his passenger said the automatic was shifting HIS car at 3800. Once we hit 70 MPH I couldn't gain on him AT ALL, even at 5600 RPM; by the time I got to 5th he was well ahead of me. He could reach 90 by the time I got to 80, not even breaking a sweat, with an automatic tranny and FWD.
The other real weakness of the WRX is a lack of torque. Torque is the reason that Corvettes, Mustangs and even Audis will eat a WRX alive stock-for-stock. Hell, I've been caught napping at a stoplight by Honda Preludes or the 260 HP Accord and had a very difficult time catching up to them. When you have to hit 4-5k between each shift just to get around town, that is a weak engine with little low-end torque.
Here's the other dirty secret that some of you will never admit even on pain of death: there are a LOT of pickup trucks out there that can kick the crap out of your WRX, street or highway. An $18k Toyota Tacoma will pull past you on the highway like you are standing still -- and why not? No weight, in comparison (that big empty bed!) and TONS of torque.
If you want to compare a WRX to other cars, do it where the comparison was meant to be made: on dirt, on wet gravel, climbing a slippery hill. That AWD we have comes at a price on the street -- power transfer, loss to heat and friction, and differential slip. Put us on a muddy hill, where we were MEANT to be, and we'll kick any Maxima's hind end -- but how often does that happen between home and the 7-11?
I've got a "bone stock" (man, I hate that term) 2002 WRX and I drive it on the highway and street alongside many of the cars mentioned here. I'm going to come out and say what some of you are dancing around: if you bought a WRX to "own" other people on the street, your money was wasted. I'm a fairly serious driver; my first and second cars were a gray-market BMW 325i and a 911 Carerra (1983, pearl white -- I miss that car!) and I've driven just about everything I can get my hands on over the years.
I love my WRX; it is a fantastic machine for what it does. But to expect it to "own" cars with much higher power-to-weight ratios (which is where REAL performance is measured) and to "drag" against cars with RWD (and even FWD) when our power and torque is split between two differentials is just silly. It isn't what the car was designed for or meant for.
The 2002 WRX is frankly an underpowered car for its weight. I've got a friend with that 3.5 liter Maxima you sneered at; that car will kick your *** any day of the week. He and I drove out on the highway together, and I told him to just drive normally, not to punch it (his is automatic.) To keep up with him I had to shift well above 5k RPM; his passenger said the automatic was shifting HIS car at 3800. Once we hit 70 MPH I couldn't gain on him AT ALL, even at 5600 RPM; by the time I got to 5th he was well ahead of me. He could reach 90 by the time I got to 80, not even breaking a sweat, with an automatic tranny and FWD.
The other real weakness of the WRX is a lack of torque. Torque is the reason that Corvettes, Mustangs and even Audis will eat a WRX alive stock-for-stock. Hell, I've been caught napping at a stoplight by Honda Preludes or the 260 HP Accord and had a very difficult time catching up to them. When you have to hit 4-5k between each shift just to get around town, that is a weak engine with little low-end torque.
Here's the other dirty secret that some of you will never admit even on pain of death: there are a LOT of pickup trucks out there that can kick the crap out of your WRX, street or highway. An $18k Toyota Tacoma will pull past you on the highway like you are standing still -- and why not? No weight, in comparison (that big empty bed!) and TONS of torque.
If you want to compare a WRX to other cars, do it where the comparison was meant to be made: on dirt, on wet gravel, climbing a slippery hill. That AWD we have comes at a price on the street -- power transfer, loss to heat and friction, and differential slip. Put us on a muddy hill, where we were MEANT to be, and we'll kick any Maxima's hind end -- but how often does that happen between home and the 7-11?
12-08-2003, 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by jdmpwrdr
The WRX can hang with most of them.
BMW Z4 vs WRX.....Z4 stands no chance
BMW M Roadster would walk all over us I believe.
M3 would destroy us.
350z vs WRX......might be a good race but I'm sure we'd lose.
Porche Boxster would destroy us.
S2000 vs WRX.....another good race. Not sure of the outcome.
RSX Type S vs WRX.....WRX will win with equally skilled driver.
Mustang GT vs WRX......drivers race
Z28 vs WRX.....might be a good race. Not sure.
Trans Am vs WRX......depending on what model would depict the outcome.
Mazda 6 vs WRX.....the 6 will lose
IS300 vs WRX.....WRX will walk away from the Lexus
The WRX can hang with most of them.
BMW Z4 vs WRX.....Z4 stands no chance
BMW M Roadster would walk all over us I believe.
M3 would destroy us.
350z vs WRX......might be a good race but I'm sure we'd lose.
Porche Boxster would destroy us.
S2000 vs WRX.....another good race. Not sure of the outcome.
RSX Type S vs WRX.....WRX will win with equally skilled driver.
Mustang GT vs WRX......drivers race
Z28 vs WRX.....might be a good race. Not sure.
Trans Am vs WRX......depending on what model would depict the outcome.
Mazda 6 vs WRX.....the 6 will lose
IS300 vs WRX.....WRX will walk away from the Lexus