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Old 09-22-2005 | 09:36 PM
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****ing Alignment! (Warning: RANT!)

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When I had my accident, I had the shop put on the new wheels and tires and they had a shop align it all. Everything was good, drove well and everything so I never bothered to pay any attention to the alignment.
Now, 4600 miles later, my brand new (6 months ago) Potenza S-03's are worn to **** in the front. Outside of them is worn down to where they need to be replaced, the inside is ok, but the rears are perfect. It must have too much positive camber.

I brought it back to the shop, they agreed that they are worn to **** and it shouldnt be like that so they started giving me excuses why it isn't their fault (err, the fault of the place it was aligned... not the shop that installed everything; they brought it somewhere for the alignment).
First, they said it's a lowered car so it took them forever to do the alignment and that most places would refuse to align a lowered car. (basically saying its not their fault because the car is lowered)
Third, they blamed it on me hitting something and throwing the camber off. (nope, didn't happen... unless it was a speed bump that I rolled over slowly)
Fourth, they started to say I was driving too fast and taking turns too fast so that was wearing them down. (uhhh, no? never slide and I don't even drive it too aggressively more than once a week)

Also, keep in mind that about 1/2 of those miles are freeway miles.

****ing bull****... or am I dumb and missing something?
Is it possible for it to be anything other than the alignment?

Oh yeah, pics:



Outside tread left w/ quarter as comparison:


Inside tread left w/ quarter as comparison:


Rear tread left w/ quarter as comparison:


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Old 09-22-2005 | 09:42 PM
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Oh, and any suggestions other than getting new front tires and bringing it to AI?
Old 09-22-2005 | 10:39 PM
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just get a super aggressive allignment and run like -3 degrees of camber
Old 09-22-2005 | 10:49 PM
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bring it to an alignment shop and get your current settings checked.
do you have any adjustable links that might be loose?
Old 09-22-2005 | 10:54 PM
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toe in will do that as fast as camber being out.
Old 09-22-2005 | 11:26 PM
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Here are the numbers on the sheet showing what it was adjusted to that they gave me when I went in to complain today:

Front Left
Camber: -0.2
Caster: 2.9
Toe: .05

Front Right
Camber: -.5
Caster: 3.0
Toe: .04

Edit: Before and After numbers were pretty much the same except for the toe (was .45 before alignment).
Also is noted that the camber is maxed out and it can't be adjusted anymore.... wtf?

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Old 09-22-2005 | 11:57 PM
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.45 Toe will do that to tires. Should be running 0.00 toe if you want the least ammount of wear on the tires.

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Old 09-23-2005 | 12:35 AM
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-.2 and -.5 is almost no camber for the front try -1.5 to - 2.0
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:42 AM
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.45 toe!

LOL

yea that will do it.
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:44 AM
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Not to thread jack, but any reccomendations for an alignment shop in the south bay?
Old 09-23-2005 | 01:45 AM
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Not to thread jack, but any reccomendations for an alignment shop in the south bay?
Search, this has been asked eleventy billion times. In fact I think there might actually be a sticky for this exact reason.
Old 09-23-2005 | 07:54 AM
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It was .45 before alignment... the car wasnt driven before the alignment.

I've been driving it on .05 and .04 toe.
Old 09-23-2005 | 09:41 AM
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they didnt align it then. or you drive too hard
Old 09-23-2005 | 09:46 AM
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If you put about 1.5 to 2 deg negative camber on the tires, it will use the inside, and then your car will handle better.
Old 09-23-2005 | 10:18 AM
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Don't let it slide. Talk to the supervisor. If that don't work out, how about KRON 4 -consumer thing...



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